Comments on: Tundra v. F150 — Part II: Features and Pricing http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/03/19/tundra-v-f150-part-ii-features-and-pricing/ Toyota Tundra News, Reviews, Accessories, and Information Wed, 07 Jan 2009 09:48:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Justin http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/03/19/tundra-v-f150-part-ii-features-and-pricing/#comment-5221 Justin Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:21:09 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/03/19/tundra-v-f150-part-ii-features-and-pricing/#comment-5221 Don: I understood you point, simply wanted to clarify that no matter if you come out on top or not, you are still at a loss, whether it's vehicle damage, personal injury or god forbid death. **** Now I'll refer you to a Ford site that I frequent, which a poster has created a thread called "Tundra Crash Pics". He comes on the site and posts pics from www.copart.com about once a month. Now keep in mind, there are some blind Ford cheerleaders that totally hate Toyota and see that Ford can do no wrong, so you may want to disregard some/many/most of the comments people have made. Now to view the pics, you'll need to become a member of the forum. Some of the pics you'll see aren't too bad at all, while others will make you wonder "What the hell was the driver doing?" This thread is roughly 22 pages long with many mangled 07-08 model Tundras, but page 9 and forward show some of the most mangled trucks. http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/index.php?s=d27f126958dd79a059e031de1d06cf20&showtopic=13645 **** Now I'm sure there are plenty of F150s and Fords out there, simply wanted to show that the Tundra is no exception to being destroyed in an accident. Don: I understood you point, simply wanted to clarify that no matter if you come out on top or not, you are still at a loss, whether it’s vehicle damage, personal injury or god forbid death.
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Now I’ll refer you to a Ford site that I frequent, which a poster has created a thread called “Tundra Crash Pics”. He comes on the site and posts pics from http://www.copart.com about once a month. Now keep in mind, there are some blind Ford cheerleaders that totally hate Toyota and see that Ford can do no wrong, so you may want to disregard some/many/most of the comments people have made. Now to view the pics, you’ll need to become a member of the forum. Some of the pics you’ll see aren’t too bad at all, while others will make you wonder “What the hell was the driver doing?” This thread is roughly 22 pages long with many mangled 07-08 model Tundras, but page 9 and forward show some of the most mangled trucks.

http://www.blueovalforums.com/.....opic=13645
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Now I’m sure there are plenty of F150s and Fords out there, simply wanted to show that the Tundra is no exception to being destroyed in an accident.

]]> By: Justin http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/03/19/tundra-v-f150-part-ii-features-and-pricing/#comment-5220 Justin Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:38:37 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/03/19/tundra-v-f150-part-ii-features-and-pricing/#comment-5220 Mickey: The 97-03 model F150 had a bad frontal crash test rating mostly in the Scab models, due to the lack of a B pilar, while the Rcab & Screw models weren't nearly as bad. I also like to point out, the 97-03 model did have a decent crash test rating when released (1996 as a 1997 model) compared to the competition at that time. But over the years the crash test requirements/standards got more stringent, dropping the F150 back in this area until the 04-08 model release in 2003. **** Now lifted trucks can have their down fall in accidents as well. Increasing the height of these already top heavy vehicles only makes them more prone to tip/roll, especially if hit by another vehicle at the right angle. Mickey: The 97-03 model F150 had a bad frontal crash test rating mostly in the Scab models, due to the lack of a B pilar, while the Rcab & Screw models weren’t nearly as bad. I also like to point out, the 97-03 model did have a decent crash test rating when released (1996 as a 1997 model) compared to the competition at that time. But over the years the crash test requirements/standards got more stringent, dropping the F150 back in this area until the 04-08 model release in 2003.
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Now lifted trucks can have their down fall in accidents as well. Increasing the height of these already top heavy vehicles only makes them more prone to tip/roll, especially if hit by another vehicle at the right angle.

]]> By: don http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/03/19/tundra-v-f150-part-ii-features-and-pricing/#comment-5217 don Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:39:22 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/03/19/tundra-v-f150-part-ii-features-and-pricing/#comment-5217 justin I think you'r right when you say that no one wins in an accident what i ment when I sayed I'd would have rather been in an accident in the tundra is because I've accually seen the 07 tundra get hit buy other truck and the tundra gave out some good results. thats why I would prefer to be in the tundra if i were to be in an accident I'm not going to win it but I think it less of a risk that I have to take because of what I've seen (sorry if I made any mis understandings) but any ways thank's for your comment justin and no offence to ford or any of the domestic vihicles justin I think you’r right when you say that no one wins in an accident what i ment when I sayed I’d would have rather been in an accident in the tundra is because I’ve accually seen the 07 tundra get hit buy other truck and the tundra gave out some good results. thats why I would prefer to be in the tundra if i were to be in an accident I’m not going to win it but I think it less of a risk that I have to take because of what I’ve seen (sorry if I made any mis understandings) but any ways thank’s for your comment justin and no offence to ford or any of the domestic vihicles

]]> By: Mickey http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/03/19/tundra-v-f150-part-ii-features-and-pricing/#comment-5212 Mickey Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:04:11 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/03/19/tundra-v-f150-part-ii-features-and-pricing/#comment-5212 Justin you know around the 03 model F-150 was bad in a accident. But still I had one. You have very good points there. I do agree with the personal preference. In any accident with a compact against a truck will have terrible results. To me even worse if the truck is lifted. Justin you know around the 03 model F-150 was bad in a accident. But still I had one. You have very good points there. I do agree with the personal preference. In any accident with a compact against a truck will have terrible results. To me even worse if the truck is lifted.

]]> By: Justin http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/03/19/tundra-v-f150-part-ii-features-and-pricing/#comment-5210 Justin Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:29:44 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/03/19/tundra-v-f150-part-ii-features-and-pricing/#comment-5210 Don: Each person has their personal preference, and you have your right to feel how you do. Personally when it has come to safety overall, I truly can't say Toyota or Ford is better, think it's on an individual basis, depending on the particular vehicle in reference and the features installed/offered that may make the difference. Some Toyota models may be better than their Ford counter part, but visa versa could be said about certain models too. Just because a vehicle is built better by a quality standpoint, doesn't make it safer. Now I do agree, Toyota is much more responsible in taking action on flaws or problems their vehicles have than the domestics, at least in my experience. This could be changing, at least that's what the domestics claim, but we'll truly have to wait and see. **** Exactly what have you heard about Ford being bad in the safety dept in the past? Simply would like to know the models and safety problems you speak of. **** And hey, you are more loyal to the safety of Toyota, no problem by me or anyone on this site. Personally most cars/trucks on the road are similarly safe in most aspects, unless we speak of a Corolla on Tundra accident. No matter the safety features, mass more than likely wins the majority of the time. And truthfully, no one wins in an accident. Don: Each person has their personal preference, and you have your right to feel how you do. Personally when it has come to safety overall, I truly can’t say Toyota or Ford is better, think it’s on an individual basis, depending on the particular vehicle in reference and the features installed/offered that may make the difference. Some Toyota models may be better than their Ford counter part, but visa versa could be said about certain models too. Just because a vehicle is built better by a quality standpoint, doesn’t make it safer. Now I do agree, Toyota is much more responsible in taking action on flaws or problems their vehicles have than the domestics, at least in my experience. This could be changing, at least that’s what the domestics claim, but we’ll truly have to wait and see.
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Exactly what have you heard about Ford being bad in the safety dept in the past? Simply would like to know the models and safety problems you speak of.
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And hey, you are more loyal to the safety of Toyota, no problem by me or anyone on this site. Personally most cars/trucks on the road are similarly safe in most aspects, unless we speak of a Corolla on Tundra accident. No matter the safety features, mass more than likely wins the majority of the time. And truthfully, no one wins in an accident.

]]> By: don http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/03/19/tundra-v-f150-part-ii-features-and-pricing/#comment-5206 don Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:22:47 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/03/19/tundra-v-f150-part-ii-features-and-pricing/#comment-5206 this is biast but I think that toyota builds there cars and trucks better that ford toyota is a VERY RESPONSIBLE company yeah i think the power stoke and mustangs can be cool and stuff but still I'm going to side with toyota on saftey and things like that I mean i havent heard good things about ford in the past and as a matter of fact IF I WERE TO BE IN AN ACCIDENT RIGHT NOW I WOULD CRASH IN THE TUNDRA thats how dependent I am on toyota yeah this is biast but I think that toyota builds there cars and trucks better that ford toyota is a VERY RESPONSIBLE company yeah i think the power stoke and mustangs can be cool and stuff but still I’m going to side with toyota on saftey and things like that I mean i havent heard good things about ford in the past and as a matter of fact IF I WERE TO BE IN AN ACCIDENT RIGHT NOW I WOULD CRASH IN THE TUNDRA thats how dependent I am on toyota yeah

]]> By: Devin http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/03/19/tundra-v-f150-part-ii-features-and-pricing/#comment-4877 Devin Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:46:17 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/03/19/tundra-v-f150-part-ii-features-and-pricing/#comment-4877 Biased or not the f150 is a pice of junk. I have a 05 lariat supercrew and I've had to put in 2 short blocks and a head to name the major things. Plus the ride un it sucks compaired to the tundra. My next truck will be a tundra ill never own a ford again. Biased or not the f150 is a pice of junk. I have a 05 lariat supercrew and I’ve had to put in 2 short blocks and a head to name the major things. Plus the ride un it sucks compaired to the tundra. My next truck will be a tundra ill never own a ford again.

]]> By: crush http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/03/19/tundra-v-f150-part-ii-features-and-pricing/#comment-2403 crush Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:44:56 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/03/19/tundra-v-f150-part-ii-features-and-pricing/#comment-2403 I know this is a Canadian publication but this site has facts and unbiased opinions. Check it out!! www.canadiantruckkingchallenge.ca/ I know this is a Canadian publication but this site has facts and unbiased opinions. Check it out!!

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]]> By: Justin http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/03/19/tundra-v-f150-part-ii-features-and-pricing/#comment-887 Justin Tue, 07 Aug 2007 18:32:53 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/03/19/tundra-v-f150-part-ii-features-and-pricing/#comment-887 Very biased review, but what would you expect from a site called "TundraHeadquarters". As for work, the Tundra has nice features but is still new and has not proven it can hold up over time, yet. Other than the power (HP/TQ), 6spd trans and larger brakes, I see the Tundra having no advantage. Also, the Tundra does have a higher sticker price, but after doing research on NADA & KBB, when equipped in similar fashions, the Toyotas doesn't prove to hold it's resale value as well. So the higher resale value is just and illusion. Do the research yourself if you like. Very biased review, but what would you expect from a site called “TundraHeadquarters”. As for work, the Tundra has nice features but is still new and has not proven it can hold up over time, yet. Other than the power (HP/TQ), 6spd trans and larger brakes, I see the Tundra having no advantage.

Also, the Tundra does have a higher sticker price, but after doing research on NADA & KBB, when equipped in similar fashions, the Toyotas doesn’t prove to hold it’s resale value as well. So the higher resale value is just and illusion. Do the research yourself if you like.

]]> By: the raj http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/03/19/tundra-v-f150-part-ii-features-and-pricing/#comment-779 the raj Fri, 03 Aug 2007 21:18:02 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/03/19/tundra-v-f150-part-ii-features-and-pricing/#comment-779 The Toyota is far more likely to be my next truck, but this review is awfully biased. A "straw man" argument, if you will. But really, Toyota has nearly doubled its sales of the Tundra over last year, and they haven't been selling at rock bottom prices. The Toyota is far more likely to be my next truck, but this review is awfully biased. A “straw man” argument, if you will.

But really, Toyota has nearly doubled its sales of the Tundra over last year, and they haven’t been selling at rock bottom prices.

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