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	<title>Comments on: Toyota considering recall of 5.7&#8217;s made before 3/15/07</title>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/06/07/toyota-considering-recall-of-57s-made-before-31507/#comment-12968</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheri - I&#039;ve heard complaints from 08&#039; owners. If you can send me some documentation and/or a little bit more about what you know I would be very grateful.

Ken - I&#039;m not telling you to do anything. I&#039;m just explaining that it&#039;s a normal sound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheri &#8211; I&#8217;ve heard complaints from 08&#8242; owners. If you can send me some documentation and/or a little bit more about what you know I would be very grateful.</p>
<p>Ken &#8211; I&#8217;m not telling you to do anything. I&#8217;m just explaining that it&#8217;s a normal sound.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason,                                                                                                                              So you`re saying that i have to learn to embrace the excessive internal engine noise coming from my beautiful 2008` Tundra Limited Edition 5.7,lol?                                                                                                                            I gotta tell ya, i leased this truck with every intention of buying it at the end of the lease term but at this point i`m glad it`s a lease(that i can return)because no fool would buy this truck from me the way it sounds.             Amen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,                                                                                                                              So you`re saying that i have to learn to embrace the excessive internal engine noise coming from my beautiful 2008` Tundra Limited Edition 5.7,lol?                                                                                                                            I gotta tell ya, i leased this truck with every intention of buying it at the end of the lease term but at this point i`m glad it`s a lease(that i can return)because no fool would buy this truck from me the way it sounds.             Amen</p>
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		<title>By: Cheri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken,

They have changed that piston.  The noise is GONE in the 2008 Tundra.  I know.  I have a lawsuit.

Cheri</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken,</p>
<p>They have changed that piston.  The noise is GONE in the 2008 Tundra.  I know.  I have a lawsuit.</p>
<p>Cheri</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken - I&#039;m not intending to argue with you, but that is a normal condition. The reason is that Toyota uses a piston that&#039;s somewhat expansive in the 5.7. The expansiveness is due to the fact the piston material isn&#039;t the normal mix of aluminum and silicone - it contains more aluminum. This means the pistons are less resistant to damage from high pressure and knocking (which is a concern on a supercharged motor).

In other words, because Toyota designed the 5.7 for a supercharger, the pistons have to be a little tougher in a stock truck. So, because of this stronger alloy, many 5.7 owners experience piston slap.

Part of the reason that slap isn&#039;t universal is that the pistons can be checked for fit during assembly. Every cylinder and every piston are slightly different sized (just a fact of manufacturing), so matching individual pistons to individual blocks helps to minimize the gap (and therefore minimize the slapping noise). I would assume that some pistons simply fit better than others.

In terms of danger to the engine, old-timers will argue that piston slap automatically leads to ring wear and cylinder wall scuffing. However, this warning fails to account for the strength and characteristics of the materials involved. Modern alloys are resistant to any potential wear effects. GM trucks, which were notorious for slap during the late 90&#039;s and early part of this decade, have been driven 100k+ miles consistently without any signs of damage. The alloys used today are simply much, much better than alloys used even 20 years ago.

As for fixing it in 2010 models, etc., I&#039;ve definitely seen fewer complaints since the 07&#039;s came out. My guess is that Toyota has done a better job of matching the pistons to the individual cylinders during the assembly process. Until Toyota stops building the 5.7 to accommodate the supercharger, all 5.7 engines will have the potential to make noise when they&#039;re cold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken &#8211; I&#8217;m not intending to argue with you, but that is a normal condition. The reason is that Toyota uses a piston that&#8217;s somewhat expansive in the 5.7. The expansiveness is due to the fact the piston material isn&#8217;t the normal mix of aluminum and silicone &#8211; it contains more aluminum. This means the pistons are less resistant to damage from high pressure and knocking (which is a concern on a supercharged motor).</p>
<p>In other words, because Toyota designed the 5.7 for a supercharger, the pistons have to be a little tougher in a stock truck. So, because of this stronger alloy, many 5.7 owners experience piston slap.</p>
<p>Part of the reason that slap isn&#8217;t universal is that the pistons can be checked for fit during assembly. Every cylinder and every piston are slightly different sized (just a fact of manufacturing), so matching individual pistons to individual blocks helps to minimize the gap (and therefore minimize the slapping noise). I would assume that some pistons simply fit better than others.</p>
<p>In terms of danger to the engine, old-timers will argue that piston slap automatically leads to ring wear and cylinder wall scuffing. However, this warning fails to account for the strength and characteristics of the materials involved. Modern alloys are resistant to any potential wear effects. GM trucks, which were notorious for slap during the late 90&#8217;s and early part of this decade, have been driven 100k+ miles consistently without any signs of damage. The alloys used today are simply much, much better than alloys used even 20 years ago.</p>
<p>As for fixing it in 2010 models, etc., I&#8217;ve definitely seen fewer complaints since the 07&#8217;s came out. My guess is that Toyota has done a better job of matching the pistons to the individual cylinders during the assembly process. Until Toyota stops building the 5.7 to accommodate the supercharger, all 5.7 engines will have the potential to make noise when they&#8217;re cold.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 02:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason-The knock in the engine is not normal. I`ve owned many high performance vehicles(and i still do) putting out well over 500hp with zero piston slap/knocking/tapping/dieseling or whatever you want to call it.  Do the  new 2010 and 2011 5.7 liter motors sound like this or has Toyota already addressed the problem in a discreet manner?   I go out of my way to talk to other 5.7 liter Tundra owners and alot of them have noisy motors and alot of them have very quiet motors. It`s not normal and it`s not acceptable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason-The knock in the engine is not normal. I`ve owned many high performance vehicles(and i still do) putting out well over 500hp with zero piston slap/knocking/tapping/dieseling or whatever you want to call it.  Do the  new 2010 and 2011 5.7 liter motors sound like this or has Toyota already addressed the problem in a discreet manner?   I go out of my way to talk to other 5.7 liter Tundra owners and alot of them have noisy motors and alot of them have very quiet motors. It`s not normal and it`s not acceptable.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken - It&#039;s called piston slap, and it&#039;s normal. GM trucks are notorious for it, but it&#039;s within the parameters of Toyota&#039;s design.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken &#8211; It&#8217;s called piston slap, and it&#8217;s normal. GM trucks are notorious for it, but it&#8217;s within the parameters of Toyota&#8217;s design.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 05:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another 2008` Toyota Tundra Double Cab Limited here with a tapping engine. I`m afraid to drive it when it`s cold...it`s that bad.I have always used Mobil 1  0w-20 synthetic oil and remote start to let it warm first and it still knocks.  It does quiet down once it warms up but still sounds like a diesel at idel.  The truck also has a serious brake pulsation and the truck has never stopped anything but its own weight...they`ve never been abused!  It`s ashame because i really do like this truck but i will never buy another one if Toyota doesn`t fix this engine problem.        KenM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another 2008` Toyota Tundra Double Cab Limited here with a tapping engine. I`m afraid to drive it when it`s cold&#8230;it`s that bad.I have always used Mobil 1  0w-20 synthetic oil and remote start to let it warm first and it still knocks.  It does quiet down once it warms up but still sounds like a diesel at idel.  The truck also has a serious brake pulsation and the truck has never stopped anything but its own weight&#8230;they`ve never been abused!  It`s ashame because i really do like this truck but i will never buy another one if Toyota doesn`t fix this engine problem.        KenM</p>
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		<title>By: Eduardo Santacruz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eduardo Santacruz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, to all the people complaining about engine noise: That is normal because toyota managed to build a 5.7l engine to put out almost 400 hp, there&#039;s gonna be a lot of extra noises from the removal of engine quieting components that reduce power and efficiency.

Chevy&#039;s legendary 5.7l engine is good, but it&#039;s not very reliable and it only produces about 230 hp, yeah chevy claims like 275, but thats an exaggerated claim.

i didn&#039;t hate chevy until it happened to me, i had a 5.7l z28 camaro, it was fast but it had many issues at only 78k miles so i sold it and am never buying a chevy again(spent 5000 trying to fix many engine problems)

Also my dad bought a 96 chevy blazer(126k miles) and its been having issues, he&#039;s spent 8000 so far on repairs and now it runs, but it does with very little power(0-60 in 1minute 25 seconds) and no one wants to buy it because its this slow and is very loud while running) So i guess he&#039;s just gonna keep it until it dies (probably soon)

I recently bought a toyota tundra with the 4.7l v8 and its been having an exhaust leak at the manifold since 20k miles(i bought it from my uncle) but now it has 247,000 miles and still runs strong, it has the check engine light on because of the exhaust leak, but other than than, it runs great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, to all the people complaining about engine noise: That is normal because toyota managed to build a 5.7l engine to put out almost 400 hp, there&#8217;s gonna be a lot of extra noises from the removal of engine quieting components that reduce power and efficiency.</p>
<p>Chevy&#8217;s legendary 5.7l engine is good, but it&#8217;s not very reliable and it only produces about 230 hp, yeah chevy claims like 275, but thats an exaggerated claim.</p>
<p>i didn&#8217;t hate chevy until it happened to me, i had a 5.7l z28 camaro, it was fast but it had many issues at only 78k miles so i sold it and am never buying a chevy again(spent 5000 trying to fix many engine problems)</p>
<p>Also my dad bought a 96 chevy blazer(126k miles) and its been having issues, he&#8217;s spent 8000 so far on repairs and now it runs, but it does with very little power(0-60 in 1minute 25 seconds) and no one wants to buy it because its this slow and is very loud while running) So i guess he&#8217;s just gonna keep it until it dies (probably soon)</p>
<p>I recently bought a toyota tundra with the 4.7l v8 and its been having an exhaust leak at the manifold since 20k miles(i bought it from my uncle) but now it has 247,000 miles and still runs strong, it has the check engine light on because of the exhaust leak, but other than than, it runs great.</p>
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		<title>By: Admin (Jason)</title>
		<link>http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/06/07/toyota-considering-recall-of-57s-made-before-31507/#comment-10136</link>
		<dc:creator>Admin (Jason)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mickey - I understand that - to be honest, I don&#039;t really have any bad feelings about any other truck. I&#039;ve had products from Dodge (a Dakota), Ford (an F150), and Chevy (a Silverado 1500), and every one of them was a great truck...except the Dakota. It sort of sucked - but I liked it. The Tundra, however, is awesome, and it deserves a lot of recognition and respect. Hopefully Toyota will honor it with more investment and a renewed commitment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mickey &#8211; I understand that &#8211; to be honest, I don&#8217;t really have any bad feelings about any other truck. I&#8217;ve had products from Dodge (a Dakota), Ford (an F150), and Chevy (a Silverado 1500), and every one of them was a great truck&#8230;except the Dakota. It sort of sucked &#8211; but I liked it. The Tundra, however, is awesome, and it deserves a lot of recognition and respect. Hopefully Toyota will honor it with more investment and a renewed commitment.</p>
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		<title>By: Mickey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Jason I would be forced to eat crow, blackbird, or what ever bird because as much as I hate to say this I would be driving a Chevy. I still like their style since the late 90&#039;s. I also like the looks of the 05-06 Tundra too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Jason I would be forced to eat crow, blackbird, or what ever bird because as much as I hate to say this I would be driving a Chevy. I still like their style since the late 90&#8217;s. I also like the looks of the 05-06 Tundra too.</p>
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