All Known 2007 Toyota Tundra Problems
Jason | Aug 22, 2007 | Comments 709
Here’s a list of all the known problems with the 2007 Toyota Tundra. We’re not trying to tear the truck down or anything – we love it – we just want to make sure everyone knows what’s going on.
1) 5.7L Camshaft Failures
This is EASILY the most publicized problem with the new Tundra, but we think it was completely been blown out of proportion. Toyota said that this had only happened 20 times. We think it might have been slightly higher than that, but not by much. Since the original news story broke, very little has been heard about any more failures. Many doom sayers predicted the Tundra’s sales would collapse because of this “HUGE” issue, but the Tundra has never sold better. Confidence in Toyota quality remains high, as it should be, and the 5.7 camshaft issue is actually a non-issue.
2) Highway Bed Bounce
This problem is very odd. Because of the specific characteristics of the Tundra’s bed and frame, it is possible to induce a self-amplifying oscillation of the back-end of the truck. Amazingly enough, this can occur at highway speeds as the bed bounces over expansion joints in the roadway. Here’s a video:
Here’s a different video shot on a California highway. At this time, Toyota has not announced a fix. While all trucks exhibit some type of bed bounce on concrete highways with lots of expansion joints, Tundras seem to be worse than normal. Adding weight to the bed and/or a trailer helps, and some other fixes include air suspension and custom leaf springs. The best solution might be to wait and see if Toyota comes up with something official. Finally, if you can drive faster or slower than the harmonic frequency (observed at 55-65 mph) the vibration is vastly reduced. Try using that as an excuse when a cop is writing you a speeding ticket…
3) The stereo shutting off by itself
Of all the problems to have in the world, this one is pretty small. Occasionally, for no apparent reason, a small number of stereos in brand new Tundras have shut off all by themselves. Evidently, this is due to a short in the stereo itself. Toyota is aware of the problem and will replace your stereo as part of the warranty. We’re not 100% sure, but we can’t imagine this problem won’t be fixed in the 2008.
4) One of the air vent’s louvers won’t stay pointed downwards
This problem is actually kind of humorous, so we decided it might be fun to mention. The vent to the right of the driver, due to the effects of air-flow and gravity, has a tendency to creep upwards. In other words, you turn on the A/C, point the vent towards your mid-section, and within a few minutes the louvers have worked themselves upwards so that now the air stream is pointed towards your face. The smartest fix we heard of was to attach a book clip (you know, the black plastic and wire clip) to one of the louvers in such a way to keep it from moving. You could always ask your dealer to fix it, but they would have to remove part of your dash to do so. The book clip seems so much easier.
5) The seatbelt warning chime
A lot of people have complained about the seat belt warning chime. If you take your seat belt off for just a few seconds (say to get out of the truck to get the mail) your warning chime will go off. Also, if you are hauling something in the front passenger seat that weighs more than about 40 lbs, the weight sensor in the passenger seat will think there is a passenger sitting in the seat. If this cargo isn’t buckled in, you’ll get to hear the warning chime. There are lots of solutions to both — check out our article on the Tundra’s annoying seat belt buzzer.
6) Not getting the mileage on the sticker
In our opinion, this issue doesn’t really belong on this list. As long as people buy new vehicles, there will always be some that don’t get the mileage printed on the sticker. First of all, the mileage indicated is an average, meaning half will get more and half will get less. Second, the testing process used to determine those mileage numbers is, well, ridiculous. This isn’t a reflection on Toyota either — the EPA came up with this test nearly 30 years ago. It involves driving VERY slowly with the A/C off and not exceeding 54mph on days ending in “y” with your head cocked at a 17 degree angle…you get the idea. It’s not very applicable to today’s driving. If you’re looking for ways to improve your Tundra’s gas mileage, we wrote about gas mileage earlier this month. But don’t let stories you hear about Tundras getting poor gas mileage scare you off — just know that the mileage printed on the sticker is an estimate.
7) The Tundra is “too nice”
We’ve also heard of new Tundra owners being accused by their relatives (typically domestic truck owning in-laws) of having stuff that was “too nice” and “showing off.” We’re not sure what it is about, but it seems the Tundra gives people the impression that you’re better than them.
Any problems you’ve had that aren’t mentioned here? Tell us about them! We kind of made that last one up btw.
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Sounds good to me, Im gettin a Titan.
I have had my 5.7 DC since late July. The instrument panel is poorly designed as the too deeply mounted instruments are difficult to read in bright sunlight while wearing sunglasses. The mechanical build quality is very outstanding.
Too Nice? Hmm, haven’t heard any domestic owners say this. I’ve heard people say the F150 King Ranch is “Too Nice”, but not the new Tundra.
Guess to each their own.
Gauges too hard to read in daylight, Nav system is a real pain with always having to turn it on, should shut itself down, and that very bad “diesel” noise for the first 10 mins. Any engine making that much noise will not last. I’m sorry I bought it now because I know I will have trouble down the road with my “diesel”
Not trying to tear it down? Why not. If it has problems, it needs to be torn down. That is the problem with Toyota owners, writers and reviewers. They see a problem and know it is a problem, but since it is a Toyota they tell themselves, “We will just over look this problem and act like it isn’t a problem.”
[...] First, for anyone who doesn’t know about the bed bounce issue, take a look at our post about All Known 2007 Tundra Problems. [...]
Two issues, one already mentioned:
1. Even with dash lights full bright, instruments too dark to read in the daytime.
2. Towing mirrors vibrate.
I think the new tundra is a great truck,I have the 4×4 sr5 double cab and the only problems i have had are with the poor quality of the tires.The bridgestone dueler H/T D684 tire is a highway tire that is ranked number 52 out of 60,1 being the best,60 being the worst.I cant believe toyota put this tire on a 4×4. Is anyone else is having the same problem?
I lease an 07 Tundra 4X4 Double Cab and love the truck…until a few weeks ago I looked underneath the truck and saw an oil drip coming from the transfer case. I made an appointment with my dealer and took the truck right in. That was a week ago. Apparently the seal between the engine and transfer case is leaking and the part is on back order. The truck only has approx. 6000 km on it. Needless to say it has not made feel very good about the “All New Toyota Tundra”
I have a Tundra DC 5.7L DC. Rides smooth , heck, everything about is smooth. Pulls better and overall performance blow my previous F-150 5.4L away-(Which blew the #3 spark plug out of the head with only 45K miles). My only gripe is the deep tunnels for the guages-what were they thinking? I have driven washboards and have yet to notice any “bed bounce”. At least the doors don’t feel like they’re unlatched like my F-150 did.
Where is the steering wheel vibration issue, which for the most part is the tire balancing issue! Mine has been in five times, it still has not been repaired!
Not to mention the collateral effects of the vibration.
Right now I can honestly say I would not have purchased the vehicle with the issues that it has. This is my 5th Toyota and the worst one I have had!
I am also extremely disappointed with the level of service that I have recieved, they are doing their best to catch up and surpass the other 3 in there level of service. Not what I expected from Toyota this far.
I have seen the video clip and the GM truck is worse of all, I was a Ford man until the new Toyota Tundra, bed bounce?? the F 150 I owned was worst and couldnt carry more than 300 pounds of cargo, it felt heavy in the back, going up off road hill’s ( not inclined hill’s just short distance hills )the wheels will spin and I had to use the 4×4, problems with the truck??, rear diff, wipers not working, horn will sound when making turn, the rear lights will fall off, leather seats cracked just 6 months of purchasing, 4×4 all the time will not disingage, had to force it,ah! and the 4×4 knob just came off while forcing to disingage, I had the manual type set up, window motors burnt every 5 months, changed to generics and since then worked fine, not to mention problems with my Ford Ranger, and two Explorers, the last a 2002 Eddie Bauer, let me say the worst purchase I had made, special order and it came with mercury mountaneer steering wheel, electrical problems from the beggining, 4×4 never worked, this one was all electronic, the leather sets also cracked a year and a half later, radio never worked, well considering just a few minor problems with the Tundra, it is my best buy, no issues until now, I keep a 80 pound sand bag and the ride is nice, thinking of getting the water bag, I was a frustated ford man, now I am a happy Toyota man.
I just purchased my 2007 4.7L double cab two weeks ago. I have a problem with an oscillating vibration in the cab of my truck. It is most pronounce between 58 to 65 miles per hour. I’ve have taken it to the dealer and test drove it with of their service advisors and of course he told me he felt nothing but they did replace two defective ties which did nothing to stop the vibration. I just happened to talk to another tundra owner the other day. He had the same truck but with no TRD package and he was having the same problem. This vibration is only felt in the cab and not the steering wheel. I was think maybe a drive shaft problem?? Also I have to agree with everyone, the clock, radio and temp gauges are not bright enough during the day.
Regarding the oil leak: are you sure it’s the transfer case? There is a TSB for a bad o-ring at the base of the dipstick tube. Mine had the leak; quick fix, no problems in that area since.
Hi…Sorry…I just spoke with the dealer this morning and it is actually a seal in the trans-axle. When they told me what the problem was when I took it in, all I heard was seal and trans…and then was too stunned to hear anything else…sorry for stating the incorrect problem…Also this is the 4.7 not the 5.7…which I thought was the proven engine.
tailgate wont open. drivers side rod comes out of clip. open up tailgate, fix, wiretie to prevent from happening.
my parking sonar stopped working. usually the front, sometimes the rear. dealer ordered a new computer. still waiting to have it put in.
towing mirror vibrates
2007 Crewmax 5.7
I noticed that the bed is not aligned properly to the body.
Took it in to the dealer and checked all the trucks in the lot (over 60)
All the crewmax beds are mis aligned they are mounted more to the left. All the crew max have the same problem, something should be done to correct this issue. Maybe a “bad robot”
Bed Bounce: My Crewmax does it between 70 and 80 MPH. About the same speed and violence level as my ‘98 3 door Chevy Silverado did. It has to do with the wheelbase, and the distance between the expansion joints in the road, setting up a sympathetic harmonic resonance with unsprung weight. Most trucks with empty beds do it at different speeds, depending on road expansion joint dimensions in different states and wheelbases of the different trucks. TRD of road packages will exacerbate the issue.
I too am not thrilled with the intensity of daytime gauge lighting. Can’t they give us a brighter bulb? Maybe an LED to solve the issue?
Bed bounce:
The problem with the bed is the weak bed floor itself. exactly where the bed bolts to the frame. Since the new Tundras have a reinforced frame, the frame does not “give” or allow as much flexibility as other pickups. The stifness of the frame kind of “bounces” the bed around. The bed floor and mounting needs to be reinforced. You can actually lift the bed by hand and see it move. By reinforcing the bed and adding more ribs and maybe a thicker gauge steel floor will solve this problem.
You want to complain about a truck, buy a dodge if you want to spend a lot of money on repairs.
I just got a tundra 2007 4×4 TRD SR5. The bed bouncing issue is just terrible in CA 86. What are our recourses, Lemon Law?
I heard about a water bag 150lbs, where can I get it.
The only decent priced 150 lb water bag I could find was $220 (and it was for punching, not hauling).
I’m not sure that I understand – is this to haul around or to put under the leaf? In either case, I’m not sure it makes much sense. 150lbs of sand in the bed would have the same effect, and that might only cost $20. Airbags to help the leafs are available, but they cost quite a bit.
Im having a problem with the tailgate not opening. Not sure how this happened. Is this something i can fix or do i need to take to a toyota dealer? thank you
Last Friday, we installed the TRD Tundra Rear Sway Bar. (www.newtoyotaparts.com) It took us about 40 minutes. Somehow The bed does not bounce as much as it dit before the Sway Bar. It handles great while cornering.
Ray – your tailgate should be checked out by your Toyota dealer. It’s not a terribly complicated system, so if it’s not working something is probably broken.
My blower for the a/c was cycling in and out. The dealer agreed that was a problem for TeXas heat. They had to back order one and was replaced within a week.Now its freezing in the truck so if I go above 2 on the fan setting I’m freezing.The fan vents also travel on me. But I’m getting 23.7 on the highway with the 5.7 v8 and I havent had the bed jumping others are seeing
I recently purchased a 2007 SR5 Crewmax 5.7 4×4 and I have a concern with “Transmission Vibration”… There is a distinct and consistent vibration coming from the automatic transmission when shifting from fifth to sixth gears (Or it could be between fourth and fifth gears).. Usually it occurs when I’m driving at a slow gradual speed increase through the gears on a level road. It typically starts at about 33 mph and continues through about 38 mph. It will stop if I take my foot off the gas peddle or push harder on the peddle. This vibration is very noticeable and the whole truck vibrates! It kind of feels like the transmission is stuck trying to decide if it wants to stay in fifth gear or gear up to sixth gear.
Other than that, I absolutely love my truck!
transmission vibration. picked up my new double cab 4×4 sr5 w 4×4 on thursday took it back friday for a transmission vibration at low speed. they are replacing the entire trans and converter.it would shake the whole truck like you were running over rumble strips on the road. i paid 1500 more for toyota than a similar equiped silverado i hope it wasn’t a mistake!
Steve,
I have been trying to find this tranny vibration on my truck.
At what speeds does it happen?
Did you had it in D?
At what gears did you notice the vibration?
On regular streets or highways?
I may not have this problem.
Thanks,
Marco
I also have a vibration like you are running over a rumble strip but it happens at 55 to 65 mph. It is not severe but very annoying at highway speeds. I am taking it to the dealer next Friday for the second time. The first time they replaced two tires but that did not fix the problem.
John — that’s probably a wheel balance issue.
[...] here is some good stuff on the known "issues" with the Tundra including bed bounce. They stated on this site that they e-mailed TOYOTA about the bed bounce issue and Toyota responded by not admitting nor denying the problem. I think based on what I read that is will be something Toyota will be addressing. The website is: tundraheadquarters.com
Admin-I had the wheels balanced and the dealer even replace two tires. My truck has the TRD package with BF Goodrich tires. I spoke to another Tundra owner who has the same truck without the TRD package so has has different tires and rims and he has the same exact problem. It is an oscillating vibration that resonates thoughout the cab. It is going back to the dealer next week so I will keep you posted.
What a shame. I dearly love the new Tundra and am/was a pen swoop away from buying a crew limited. As alot of people have said, you can not ignore the issue with the bed. I guess I will hold off or go with a Sierra 1500 loaded to the gills for 2500 bucks less! People who own Tundras please keep posting issues/non-issues and concerns.
Thanks
Purchased my 2007 (reg cab SB 4X4 5.7) on Aug 2. I now have 3000 miles on it. I have not had any problems. Truck is smooth and powerful. I dont have the bed bounce issue or vibrations. Fuel mileage 14/18. Seems to be right on what the sticker says. I would like to mention that the 18mpg on highway is at about 65mph. The 5.7 seems to drink a considerable amount of fuel if you run it at 80 or above (16 mph and worse).
I am 6′ 3″ tall and can not get in and out the Tundra with out hitting my head on the cab opening. And what is the reason for a 26 gal fule tank in a Truck made for towing? I hope the next Tundra is built right, Toyoto should lisen to the Truck buyers.
I had a similar vibration,bed bounce,wheel hop.. in my 2001 Tundra Limited TRD. Bothered me for the better part of 6 years. I put a set of the new bridgestone dueler Revos on and the problem went away. Truck runs smooth at all speeds.
The first time I closed the tailgate on my 07 tundra, the support cable got pinched between the gate and the taillight lens cracking it. Why is the tail light lens flush with the edge of the bed if this is an “industial” use truck
07 tundra with 600kms on it I started it in park and it rolled forward , I had no transmission at all and the 4 lo light was flashing , i switched it from 2wd to 4 hi and 4 lo and still had a bunch of neturals , restarted the truck same same.. after about 5 minutes the 4 lo light quit flashing and it seams ok. i will have it towed to Toyota tomorrow , has anyone else had this?
tim
tmcpherson@cogeco.ca
I own a 2007 Tundra 5.7 Limited Crewmax 4×4 with the TRD Package. It was the featured vehicle on this website on August 30th and I’m glad to say that I have none of the problems everyone else are describing. I also know about 30 other 2007 Tundra owners with all different configurations and the only thing a hand full of them have complained about is the AC vent to the right of the instrument cluster loosing position and one with the driveshaft seal leak. Most of these guys have changed over from the other Big 3 (GM,Ford and Dodge)and they can’t believe the difference in ride and quality. I also know that Toyota has never left their customers or like I like to refer to myself, “A FAN” high and dry with their purchase. Toyota has reached their level of satisfaction and known quality by stepping up to the pump and correcting any flaws that are truly flaws. I have owned using my toes and fingers 13 to be exact, Toyotas in my lifetime for that reason, “taking care of theirs customers!” I also know that my 13th Toyota being a 2007 Tundra does not fit into the typical association of the unlucky 13 scenario. It has been the best Toyota I have ever owned and the finest to drive. All I can say is that I have seen Toyota do things after the 3/36 bumper to bumper warranty and the 5/60 drivetain warranty has expired that no other car maker would ever consider doing for their customers or product in the name of quality and more importantly customer satisfaction. For example, replacing an engine on my 1999 Camry with 200,000 plus miles for no charge If the only problems this new Tundra ever faces are the one desribed, I will take them after hearing true horror stories from GM, Ford and Dodge owners and how some of them were left holding the bag. Look what Ford did with the 6.0 Diesel for their customers to correct their problems, they redesigned the engine and came out with the 6.4 that still has it share of problems. What did Ford do for the 6.0 owners— Nothing!!!! I’m glad I own a Toyota and have Toyota standing in my corner.
I have a new Tundra, 5.7L, dbl cab, 4×4. I noticed that while i gradually increase my speed passing through 35 mph (+/-2), the center of the truck shakes. I’m thinking its either a transmission problem or a drive-shaft malfunction. Any similar problems or ideas on whats wrong? I have an appt tomorrow morning to have it looked at.
nachy valledor: Have you read the reviews? Driven an ‘07 Silverado or F150? You’d notice by the reviews and actually driving (I’ve driven all 3) that the Tundra actualy has the worst ride quality of the group, with or without the TRD pkg.
You’ve owned 13 Toyota’s, great so you’re a die hard fan. Doesn’t prove they are better than any of the domestics. Just your opinion.
I have a very hard time believing “ANY” automaker would replace a motor at over 200K miles, unless it was under a recall. Just my opinion, but I’d call this BS.
Having a dealer fix your auto outside the 3/36 or 5/60 is not Toyota doing the work, the dealer is footing the bill. I’ve had domestic dealers do the same, but it doesn’t mean the automaker payed, but was the dealer.
Ford 6.0 was a problematic Navistar motor. Yes it was in a Ford, but none of the problems were Ford manufactured parts. Ford requested Navistar fix the issue and they developed the 6.4L, which hasn’t had any issues to date other than the DPF dumping too much fuel down the exhaust. Has been a quick easy fix that’s not costly.
You act like there have never been Toy recalls (engine sludge, cruise control, suspension, etc…). I’m not saying the domestics don’t have their own problems, cause they do, but please don’t come across as if Toyota always does what’s right, domestics do what’s wrong, Toyota’s never have issues, but domestics always do. Clearly that is not the case.
Found the problem! Passing through 35 mph (+/-2), my tundra would vibrate. Turned out it was a misaligned driveshaft that took about 30 minutes to fix. Runs like a champ now. BTW: I stopped buying Fords, not because of the quality, but because they treat their customers like crap. I probably would have received great service at the dealership where I purchased it, but I move a lot and I found three mid-west to southern dealers who cared little for the problems I had. Three fords w/poor service on all. Too bad. I’m a Toyota fan now.
Justin
First of all I respect your opinions because hopefully they are based off of real life experiences. Do you own a Tundra or any other Toyota Product where you can compare your ownership experiences apples to apples? I didn’t want to air out all of my dirty laundry but for reasons of clarification of my opinions I will.
My personal opinions and thoughts are based off of real life experiences that I have had with my Toyota Products compared to my past and present experiences with my Ford Products that I’ve also owned and believe it or not still own. (I hope to replace my Ford Fleet in the future with the bigger Diesel /Hybrids Tundras when they come out.)
I am part owner of a Construction Company and in my fleet I still have 4 F350’s, 2 F250’s, 2 Crown Vics and way back in the early 90’s I had a Thunderbird Super Coupe that left me stranded with a complete transmission failure at 12000 miles that Ford the manufacturer blamed on negligence on my behalf and left me high and dry.
The domestics drove me away to Toyota back then and every time that I take my Ford Fleet in for repairs which is often, more then all of my Toyota Fleet put together, they continue to push me further and further to the other side.
If you read my stated opinions never once did I say Toyota was perfect (because if they were everyone would be driving one and all other manufacturers would seize to exist). I agreed with what some of the other owners stated they were having problems with. There is no such thing as the perfect trouble free vehicle. What I stated was that Toyota is a Pro Active Company with Customer Satisfaction and Product Quality in mind. From owning several earlier model Tundras and T100’s, I saw the improvements and repairs of their flaws throughout the change of each model year. I also saw that they were quick to fix any known defects or problems and didn’t let them linger on like some of the problems I have experienced with my domestic fleet. Don’t get me wrong there were some concerns I had with my earlier model Tundras that they didn’t consider as flaws but in my opinion they were. But that was my opinion. The all new Tundra covered those concerns like turning radius, towing capacities, and engine performance. Being in the Construction business those 3 things materialized before me every time I hooked up a trailer with heavy equipment henceforth that is why I own some Ford F Series Trucks. But now I can proudly say my all new Tundra has taken care of those concerns and fortunately for me I have not experienced any of the stated concerns that other owners say they have.
Getting back to my Camry with 200,000 miles Toyota Motor Sales took care of my repairs 100% back in 2001. If you do your research on the internet they also did it for many other owners before it even became a known problem related to whatever caused it. BS or not, believe it or not, it is what it is. Do your homework. Toyota stepped up to the pump without having to twist their arms. I went into the dealership expecting to pay for my repair that I thought one of my employees had caused and to my surprise I received a call stating that the repairs were covered. I also learned at that time and through my service experience that Toyota Motor Sales lends a helping hand to their customers when dealing with known defects or just helping us out when we patronize Toyota dealerships for maintenance and other types of repairs religiously when help is due again without a twist of the arm and even after the warranty has expired. Ford didn’t do that for me on my Crown Vic that had some intake manifold problems that since I have come to find out is a known problem. Ask any Police Department with a fleet of Crown Vics and be it what it may my 6.0’s still has Ford on the side of them not Navistar and Ford collected my money on them. That sound like the tire rollover problem on Explorers that Ford blamed on Firestone which happened to be the same type of tire that was on my Toyota Forerunner that never rolled over. As for as GM the closest thing I’ve ever owned was a 1967 Camaro R/S with a 327 that had a motor mount problem where a torque strap had to be installed on in the late 60’s to keep the engine under the hood.
But this I can tell you, before I purchased my new Tundra I was invited to a ride and drive that was hosted by my dealer or Toyota I don’t remember and got to drive comparable vehicles of the Detroit 3 and a Nissan Titan that broke down when the rear end let loose during the track testing conditions and again in my opinion the Tundra outperformed, outmaneuvered, out handled and out rode the rest of the competition in the rain at that. So to me reviews are nothing more then another person’s or a company’s opinion. Sometimes fair and sometimes not fair because they might have been influenced by outside sources. I have come to learn over time that the only opinion or review I trust is the one I come up with through personal exposure and experience and I use this technique whether I’m buying a car, a toaster or a pair of underwear.
Justin I appreciate you calling me to the witness stand on my thoughts and opinions’ and being able to further express and explain why I Think Toyota is the best product on the planet and I think customer loyalty and sales are showing that to the other carmakers. Man you’ve got to love this country where not only you have a choice of what you can and want to buy but you can freely express your thoughts and opinions to the rest of the world. I hope I have not offended any of the other readers by my opinions. Everyone is entitled to have one and these are mine. Toyota Definitely Moving Me Forward!
My 2007 Toyota Tundra tailgate snapped and buckled when transporting an extended load. Maybe I’m a fool, but we’ve done this repeatedly in an 2003 DodgeRam. We needed to transport some sixteen foot pieces of masonite siding to a jobsite. To support it, we placed a 2″ X 8″ X 16′ board out the back.We secured it to the bed and than secured the load on top of it. When I was within a block of the jobsite, I went over a dip and heard this loud cracking sound. Upon inspection, we saw that the steel weld on the top right side of the tailgate had split and the outer sheet metal/skin on the top right corner had buckled. I was shocked and dissappointed to say the least, the truck had only 500 mile on it. Toyota of course says they’re not responsible for it. The biggest laugh was when the service manager told me that when you have an extended load you are suppose to remove the tailgate!!!!! Has anyone ever done that? Ever carry 4′ X 8′ pieces of rock with a 6′(and some odd inches) bed with the tailgate off? Thanks for your feedback. Paul, Owner of Paolino Painting LLC, Serving the Dallas area in high end residential painting since 1986.
So what’s up with the transmission shifting problems / vibrations mentioned by several folks? As noted by others, I’ve experienced the vibration during very gradual acceleration with the transmission wanting to shift from sixth to fifth. Its almost like the tranny is shifting quickly between gears before finally selecting the one it wants. Letting up on the gas or accelerating more makes the problem go away. I have not experienced this while shifting manually. Why does this problem not appear on the “all known problems” list? It should be something Toyota is trying to fix.
nachy valledor: Thanks for the response. I appreciate your opinion and sorry to hear about your horror stories with the Ford products.
I’ve owned F150’s, Rangers and 1 Explorer, as well as 3 Nissans in my time. Never experienced any extreme or costly issues with the F150’s or Rangers, but will admit the Explorer was a problem child and money pit. The Nissans have done me well over the years and still own 2 of them including 1 F150 & 1 Ranger.
I will admit the 90’s Ford Auto Trans. were notorious for problems, not only in the TBird either. I personally have never owned a toyota, but have driven some and known family memebers, coworkers and friends that have. Some love them, some don’t. Some have had huge repairs early in the vehicles life, some have never done much other than your typical fluid and filter changes. Now I also have some relatives & friends that work in the construction business, and they swear they’d never use any other Heavy Duty (3/4 & 1 ton) trucks other than Ford. Their employers been burned too many times by the problems of other makes. My employer also has switched their fleet over from GM to Ford due to many issues, even though I think the new Duramax/Allison combo is a great setup. I like the Cummins as well, but wouldn’t trust the rest of the truck. We’ll have to wait and see what toyota offers when they venture into this market.
As for your comment about Toyota being more proactive, I would agree, but not 100%. I’ve found with most makes, many times the problem is with a dealer, not the manufacturer. Which is a problem that needs fixed across the board with all makes. Just like you’ve seen the upgrades from T100 to 1st Gen. Tundra to the current Gen. Tundra, I’ve seen many similar improvements across all makes. Sure, some more than others, some quicker than others. But competition breeds competition, so every one must improve or be left behind.
Now if Toyota did replace the entire motor at over 200K that is some extreme customer service. By chance did this have to due with the engine sludge issues they were experiencing at the time? I guess Toyota was willing to cover all costs up to the vehicle being 8 years old, with no mileage limitation.
Yes the 6.0L problems were Fords to handle, just like the 6.4, but due to the severe # of problems, Ford is discontinuing their partnership with Navistar. This has given Ford a bad name in the Heavy Duty market, where as when they had the Navistar 7.3, they were clearly the leader of the pack (in this market segment) with very few issues. Ford is now working on their own in-house Diesels, many coming over from Volvo or slightly modified Volvo Diesels.
Now the Firestone problem was a Firestone and driver issue. Over 70% of these tries were on Explorers with people that did not know how to drive a 4X4 vehicle. In the news, I did see some Tacoma’s that had rolled, but the Explorer got the press due to the huge difference in vehicles equipped with these tires. Even 20/20 did a report at the time, purposely blowing out tires on Explorers and couldn’t get the SUV to roll. The driver even took his hands off the wheel during one test and it did not roll. They contributed many of the rollovers on the driver and making too erratic of maneuvers at too high of speeds that should not be made in any SUV, no matter what make. Plus, the bad tires only came from their Dearborn facility, so unless your 4-Runner had the Firestone tires from this facility, then you had nothing to worry about. I had these tires on my 99 Ranger, which Ford quickly swapped out, no hassles.
Wow, I had a ’69 Camaro RS/SS 327 with a 3-spd on the floor. Never experienced a problem with it, but of course I purchased this vehicle in ’95 and sold it in ’98.
Now I too agree on reviews, to an extent. Many magazines/websites may have a biased opinion and it’s best to do your own comparison. If an overwhelming number of reviews/owners express a concern and/or issue that is something I look at as a trend and to investigate into. Also, I usually will not purchase a vehicle until its 3rd model year or later. Like the manufacturer to work out the majority of problems, even though there may still be a few that have gone through under the radar. With my current F150, I test drove every ’06 ½ ton model available and the ’07 GMC Sierra. Sure the Chevy, GMC & Nissan had a lot better acceleration, but the overall stability, build quality, handling, capabilities and appearance of the F150 kept me in a Ford. Even drove the ’06 Tundra, which was way too small in the cab and offered a lot less in capabilities than the other makes.
My mother-in-laws neighbor traded in a ’04 Ram 1500 QuadCab for a ’07 Tundra CrewMax (Non-TRD), which he has allowed me to drive (he’s trying to sell me on the truck). The truck has some get up and go, there is no doubt about that and I like the larger brakes and 6spd trans. too. Speed doesn’t sell me in the truck department though; it’s of course, the overall truck. During the couple drives I’ve taken, I prefer the ride quality and seating position in the F150 better. Just sit too low to the floor board in the Toyota, even with the power seats all the way up. Not a fan of the wrap around feel of the dash. Sheet metal feels similar, but in areas the Toyota feels thinner or more flimsy. Leg room in front and back is far better, but hip and head room feel better in the F150. Turning radius is very similar, I believe about a foot difference, but not too moticable. Braking in the tundra seems only slightly better, even with the bigger rotors, but those bigger rotors will be more responsive as the heat builds. This is why I like the fact the ’07 F150 has vented discs, which so far have shown markedly better stopping power & distance.
So I have driven all current ½ ton models, some more than others. Each have their benefits, each have their drawbacks. I’m glad you’re happy with your ride and it fits your needs. As they say, to each their own and thanks for your opinion. It’s always nice to hear a good personal review.
Justin,
We can sit here all day and swap our opinions and experiences, all of our automotive facts and technicals. But you know, I don’t need to preach my feelings or hundreds of thousands of other Toyota owners feelings about the Toyota product. Toyota is just doing find on their own without me. Just look at their sales compared to every other car maker worldwide and that alone speaks what I have been pitching. Like I said earlier, Man you’ve got to love this country where not only you have a choice of what you can and want to buy but you can freely express your thoughts and opinions to the rest of the world. To each his own! Everyone is entitled to have an opinion. Toyota Definitely Moving Me Forward!
After owning my Tundra for 2 months and 1300 miles, I cant imagine why other owners are not screaming their heads off over the poorly displayed instruments which are illegible in bright light. At best in sunlight shadows are thrown accross the instruments because they are so deeply recessed. What kind of an automotive design background did the instrument people have? Chinese toys?
Nachy Valledor: I’m not trying to discredit Toyota in any fashion, they make some wonderful automobiles. I’m also not saying one make is better than another, each have their niche market and appeal to particular demographics.
Again I do appreciate your opinion and feedback on your experience with Toyota products vs. domestics. It provides great insight. Never meant for it to turn into an arguement or debate, just like to get peoples thoughts on why they prefer one make over another. Myself, I’ve had great experience with Nissan cars and Ford trucks, and why I continue to purchase them. You’ve had some poor quality issues with domestics that have turned you away, which is completely understandable. So thank you for expressing your feelings and like we’ve both said, to each their own.
Paul Paolino,
I have similar problem with my tailgate.I loaded my golf cart that we use for hunting like i’ve done with all my other trucks.It riped the weld on both sides and buckled outer skin. I went to 2 dealers They contacted toyota and toyota said I should have removed tailgate.Iv’e never done that the wheels sit on part of tailgate.Toyota needs to admit that the tailgate is not designed correctly.I weight about 180 pounds if I stand on tailgate I can bend the inner panel i’m very disapponted mike
Paul & Mike: As I’ve stated in previous posts, you can tell some of the Tundra sheet metal is thinner than most makes and the excuse to remove the tailgate, is just that, an excuse. I’ve never experienced this issue with a truck before. I’m unsure why such thin sheet metal was used, but I’d assume it has to do with cost and/or to save weight.
Just my toughts.
viberation!!!!!! I am having the same problem and the dealer does not believe me!!!!! ERrrrrrrrr. I am going for a road test with the dealer so they can feel the problem. How can they resolve this any idears? I have a 2007 toyota tundra 4X4 sr5 crewmax blk
Engine noise…. I have a 2007 double cab with the 5.7 engine and 2000 miles. At start up after 10-12 hours of sitting,this engine sounds like a mini diesel, under acceleration for the first 2-3 miles, or until it warms up. Not only is it embarrasing to hear, but how long can this engine last? Any info from Toyota on this yet?
To all you Toyota Owners out there that are complaining of the dumb stupid little things. I tailgate will bounce anytime you hit a pot hole. A freeway doesnt have holes. I bet not even one off you guys have taken your trucj off-roading at the speed as shows in the video. As far as oil leeking learn first how to brake in an egine. Then to those who complain of AC, Navigation and that you Cant see your gages. Your answers are open the windows. First off all learn how to read a map and know where your going before you go. And the gages thing wear glasses. And as long as you know how fast your going well thats all you need. The 07 Tundra is the Best truck out there. Theres no competition that could match it so stop hating. This is a real truck and if you can’t handle it then drive your wifes mini van. Cus the 07 tundra is a truck for a man with (Cajones) Not a man that complains. So once again just stop hating on Toyota. They tried to make you a great truck. And all you do to repay is cry about little things. Your ALL A BUNCH OF WINERS.
Jose,
It is ok to like your tuck. This forum is importand because it will help solve some obvious issues with the new Tundra. You will soon realize that any new model Tundra is going to be upgraded and perfected thanks to us “winers” as you call us.
Oil leak has nothing to do with “break in” Oil leak is a seal or gasket issue not a break in issue.
I have taken my Crewmax off road, I have driven it at 110 MPH, I have gone on bumps. The reason I post my comments is because I know about trucks especially Toyota trucks from T-100, Tacoma, Tundra, Land Cruiser and all. I never had issues like I have with the 07 model.
I traded-in my 2006 Tundra TRD 4X4 SR5 to buy the 07 Crewmax. The difference is that my 06 was PERFECT! no issues whatsoever …a dream truck. The issues we have has nothing to do with “Cajones” Yes you can live with your truck the way it is because you don’t want to admit the problems. The guys with the “Cajones” is us… because we are out there to better this truck with our comments. Believe me that the 2008/09 model is NOT going to have all these issues thanks to us Winers.
Jose: People obviously have issues and it’s their right to express them. You may be willing to live with the truck, but many believe for the price you pay and being a Toyota, you shouldn’t have to deal with some of these minor R&D issues.
Freeway doesn’t have potholes? Guess you don’t live in an area that gets snow, as us in Colorado and the Mountain states are familiar with potholes on all road types.
Off-Roading, most may not have done this yet, but shouldn’t this truck be able to withstand the pounding of this type of driving? Most 1/2 trucks can, and if this truck can’t hold up brand new, what’s it gonna be like after a few years of abuse?
Oil leak and breaking in an engine? As T. Sgarbi stated, these two many not even be related. Also, an oil leak is not a “Stupid little issue” to most.
Open the windows? So when it’s 100+ out in Phoenix and you paid for AC, you’re just gonna open a window?
I’m not a Navigation system person, but if someone paid for it, shouldn’t it work? At least when it’s still less than a year old?
Why should you have to wear glasses to read your gauges? This is an R&D issue that can and will be corrected easily. It’s not all about knowing your speed; this is why you have oil, temp, fuel and voltage gauges. Who cares about knowing how fast you’re going if the engine starts to overheat or if you’re low on oil. Common sense my friend.
No one stated the Tundra wasn’t the best truck or were hating, just stressing their opinions on flaws that need corrected. Otherwise they may completely love the truck. I’m not a Tundra owner or even like the Tundra, but people have their right to voice their opinion on issues that have come about. This will only make the truck better in the long run.
Lastly, who cares about cajones when your tailgate is bent/bending, bed is hitting the cab, having an oil leak, AC won’t work, tranny is vibrating and you can’t read your gauges. Oh yeah, you can still go fast, which seems like the only thing about this truck that matters to you. Get a grip.
Justin,
You speak my language my man!
Nicely said and to the point.
T. Sgarbi: Thanks & the same to you. Everyone has just stated their experiences, good and bad. They want to forewarn people of issues they’ve had and to give Toyota ideas on areas needing attention. Never seen anyone completely bash the truck, as it sounds really well built, with the exception of a few issues. Everyone just has to keep in mind, no matter who makes the vehicle, Domestic or Import, truck or car, the 1st model year is always going to have its issues and by the 3rd model year these bugs are usually gone. So the people here telling of their issues are the ones that help Toyota make their product even better. These 1st model year owners are usually the guinea pigs, testing the truck out and informing Toyota what issues they’ve had, so they can slowly improve upon a their product. Just doesn’t seem like Jose understands this.
Joe G: I’ve got 400 miles on an ‘07 Tundra double cab, 4.7L w/TRD Pkg. I’ve noticed that there is a dull thud in the drivetrain when taking off from a deal stop. I have even noticed this dull thud when coming to a stop and the momentum of the truck changes from going forward to stopping at rest. Took the truck to the dealer today and was told that thud was noticed but “normal” for Tundras’ and Tacos’. I just traded in an ‘07 DC with the same enging and TRD Pkg. The truck had 8,600 miles on it and the drivetrain was smooth as silk. I also drove 2 other new Tundras’ before I ordered mine. Neither of the other ’07’s had any thud in the drivetrain. I’m very disappointed I traded in my ‘06 for what I thought was a better truck. Anyone else experience my problems?
i just bought a 07 doublecab with 5.7 no trd package. i also have a vibration in D when it goes into 5th or 6th gear at slow speeds it vibrates the whole truck!!!
if i have it in s and shift it manually no problem at all.
i am going to the dealer in a couple days to have it looked at.
it seems to just be shifting into 5th or 6th way to soon.
as long as i give it gas or ley up it goes away as soon as it downshifts
Well you guys answered all my questions on this truck,I thought only ford,chevy and dodge had these problems.
I looked at the tundra this season took it for a test run.It’s powerful & bad.
I am very impressed with the power more than anything.
I own a 1999 f-150 and bought it new with no major problems so far.
It still runs strong and I love it.
Ford F-150 4×4 Lariat is just a better lookin truck overall (just my opinion),it doesn’t have 380 horses under the hood but theres something about buying a tundra that is holding me back,besides all the plastic and the high sticker price.
I’m just glad to hear tundra has problem like ford.
so i’ve had my 2007 limited tundra for about two months now and was very happy with it. then i noticed that the seatbelt buzzer didn’t go off as quickly as it should have one day. took about 3 min for it to chime like it usually does. didn’t really think anything of it. so two days ago im driving home on the freeway and i notice that my speedometer going dead to zero….what the hell?? for the next 70 miles all my guages failed except the gas gauge. the temp guage quit working, the odometer quit logging miles, the brake light stayed on, so did the abs light and the airbag light. when the guages did come back to life, a different set of warning lights were on, the traction light constantly blinked and a couple of other lights came on with it. finally i hit a bump in the road and the speedometer stayed on with an array of warning lights. so i finally get home and shut the truck down and restart it…everything went back to normal..until the next day when it did the same thing. the third day came and the electronic steering adjustment would not move into it’s normal posistion when i shut the truck down, and of course the aformentioned problem! i am desperately trying to get it in to the dealer this week so they can find out what the hell is wrong with my $44000 truck. not knowing how fast you are going or anything else is giving me an ulcer to put it kindly. would love to hear any theories you people might have to the cause of this problem…and ill be sure to post my findings after i take her into the dealership. thanks for your input.
I just bought a new ‘07 Tundra Limited.
I see that it is ready for XM Radio but Toyota dealer wants qite a bit to install it. Any suggestions?
Thanks!
I purchased an 07 Tundra 5.7 V8 Dbl Cab in July. The driver side seat belt tension is way too tight. Dealer replaced it, but the problem persists. Anyone else having this problem? I contacted Toyota, but they say that no one has complained about this issue.
I also noticed the dashboard lights are very dim, especially in the daytime which makes the radio and clock info almost impossible to read. Thanks!
i talked to dlr about my vibration in d
at low speeds, they said they are aware of problem but no fix at this time.
i love the truck it is unbeleivable no other problems at all. well built
Mike Y, here’s a response to your comment from another reader:
“Seatbelt tensioners are all the same you may have the seat raised too high.
As for the dashboard light check the dimmer control and turn it to max. Turn off your driving lights during the day.”
Seatbelt tension isn’t adjustable as far as we know…maybe you should ask for an extender? Maybe adjust seat height and/or seat belt position using adjustment on b-pillar. No other ideas really…
Addional tailgate information. I removed the protective tailgate guard which sets atop the tailgate when it is closed or in the upright position. I discoverd in part why my tailgate snapped and bent when transporting an extended load. Once the guard is removed, you will notice two signifcant things. First, there is literaly a ’space’ between the wrapped around sheetmetal and the back side/panel/bed of the tailgate. In the middle it is joined or welded on the corners it is not. For about 3 inches on each side of the tailgate THERE IS NO WELD BUT LITERALLY A SPACE THICKER THAN A CREDIT CARD. I WAS ABLE TO CREATE MOVEMENT BY APPLYING PRESSURE WITH MY THUMBS!! Yes, this is exactly where my tailgate snapped and bent – no weld!!! Secondly, the guard is inserted into a series of ‘holes’ which run along the top edge of the tailgate. Every 5 or 6 inches or so they punched holes in the top edge of the sheet metal as to recieve the fastners of the protective guard. These ‘punch outs’ weaken the edge of the tailgate. What’s the point? Don’t extended anything beyond the point of that tailgate edge or your inviting trouble. I will be forwarding photo’s and comments of this to the Attorney Generals office in the State of Texas where the truck is built. This is simply an under engineered tailgate for a truck which is marketed as a tough, bad *%# truck.
Dim interior lights. I have put my dimmer switch on max and run the truck without any other lights on and this does not correct the problem. This is a legitmate problem that they need to fix. It shouldn’t be in a 10K dollar vehicle or a 50K vehicle. It’s a mistake that needs to be corrected by Toyota.
Positives: the brakes are excellent, the ride is good, much better than my Dodge and I am getting 16.5 to 17 mpg around town with my 6 cyclinder. I’m pleased with that. Appearance? This is a bold, good looking and impressive truck. They have accomplished what Dodge did when they redesigned the Ram. Bold, unique and impressive. Later…
Paul
Paul — good comments. Hopefully Toyota will upgrade the materials used in the tailgate.
As an aside, do you think they came up with a lightweight design to make the tailgate assist work better?
Adim:
I don’t know if thats why they made the tailgate so light. Logically it would help the tailgate ‘assist system’ because it would minimize the gravitational pull on a heavier gate.
Some thoughts: even if its a light weight tailgate, wrap and weld the sheet metal from one end of gate to the other. Why leave gaps on both ends? Secondly, I’d rather have a heavy, durable tailgate to work off of and to haul extended loads with, rather than some sissy assist tailgate system. It’s a nice thought and feature but if I had to chose between the two, its no contest; give me a functional, durable tailgate. Period. Lastly, it just doesn’t square with the ‘image’ that is portrayed in their advertizing campaign. Isn’t THE TRUCK presented as the biggest, badest, best truck ever made? Built in Texas for Texans etc. (I’m originally from Jersey by the way.)I never gave it a second thought that it couldn’t handle a load that my Dodge has handle for years. That mis-step will cost me a thousand bucks (if I have it repaired). My hope is that my comments will spare others my misfortune. It’s just not a very pleasant experience to have to spend a thousand bucks for repairs on a new truck, with less than 500 miles on it!!! Fortunately, I know there are more important things in life at age 52. If I was 22 I’d be….probably in trouble by now…. Later.
I just bought a new 2007 Tundra DC with the 5.7. I have about 450 miles on it. The vehicle has a definite vibration when shifting down from 6th to 5th especially under a load like going up a hill and not having my foot in it. There is about a 3 second period of vibration and it down shifts. It seems ok on the level or going up hill when I am giving a resonable amount of of gas. I have an appointment at the dealer. When I asked the service manager if he was aware of any other 2007 Tundras with trans. issues he said he had not heard of any. He obviously does not get on the internet. I think I am in trouble. Other than that I like the truck.
I have the Vibration Issue.
Mine is a 5.7L RC 4WD Longbox stock everything with 615 miles on it. This is almost as plain jane as you can get with thiere trucks. I can repeat it. I drive in “D” all the time. It Only happens between 30-45mph and only while excelerating moderately. Doesnt matter if the AC is on or not. The vibration is the same at 30 as it is at 40mph.
This is certainly not a tire issue since the vibration would be faster at the higher speed. I havent been over 50mph yet to see if it does it in higher range.
It does chug a little like a stick in to low of a gear. Heading back to the dealer tomorrow to get a case opened on it in case a warrenty/recall issue is required.
Someone on another site said there may be an issue with the torque converter or drive shaft alignement on some trucks. The first time it happned, it felt exactly like driving over a rumble strip.
That was at about 150 miles (and I’ve driven like a granny since I got it), but it still happens now
and then.
I think there are enough people with this issue to warrent a letter to Toyota from the group here. Cudos to DALE S for getting a statement that Toyota is aware of the issue (got it in writing?) I’d like to know what the stance is on this issue. I mean, if the power train is going to have issues down the road and its known in the first 150 miles, thats really going to affect resale value and I may want to trade it off before it becomes to well known.
People that have posted on this thread/page with the vibration issue:
John Weidow
Steve Perry
Glenn
Dave
Steve
Mark Wootan
Rick
Jeff
dale s
Pete
Anyone else?
Drop me a line (same user name) at other Tundra sites. I’ll start collecting VINs if I have to.
Has anyone seen this:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21324818/
no i dont have it in writing.
but now i will. ill keep u posted.
i have 800 miles on it now and i cant make it do it.
i am trying where it would do it all the time but nothing? HHmmmmmm.
im going for a ride now.
My 2007 Tundra makes a whistling noise even with all the windows shut and radio off could it be air going through the window seals I have not tried hearing I don’t hear it when it is not moving maybe the gaskets are not sealed right with the windows.
Yep, I tried on the way home tonight to repeat it also and its all but gone now. I’ve got 650 miles so far. Still get a slight vibration, but with the roads around here, it could be easily denied on a road test if you dont know what to look for. I’m praying for a TSB.
hi folks
well i have 900 miles and now no vibration at all.
i will be letting my wife drive it over the weekend, it did it more when she drove it lol she is a little lighter on the pedal. i spent all day yesterday driving around to try and make it do it.
wow this vehicle is awsome, i like it the more i drive it. ill keep trying
Sounds like this drivetrain vibration occurs while the system is trying to reprogram itself to a drivers habits/characteristics. Maybe it’s just a break in period issue. Thanks for the feedback everyone, keep us posted on this issue.
Well, I finally got an answer from the service rep at my dealer regarding the diesel noise on my 2007 DC with 5.7 He said that this is NORMAL. The pistons are a little undersized and after they warm up, they expand and quiet down. Nothing to worry about. What’s interesting is that it took more than 2 weeks to find out this is NORMAL. If it’s NORMAL, the rep should have known it right off. I only wish I had purchased a Tundra that was ABNORMAL. Other than the diesel sound, it’s a great truck
Robert,
I have the same noise on my Crewmax. It is not as loud as you described but it is annoying. Being a mechanical engineer and knowing about engines extensively, this noise is not piston related, it is the crankshaft! Pistons cannot be undersized. It is the piston rings that make the seal with the cylinder and not the piston itself. The noise you hear is NOT NORMAL it will get worse with time but the warranty will cover it. Depends how patient and tolerant you are in putting-up with the diesel noise.
My old Chevy started making the same noise when it had 134,000 miles.
For a new Toyota that is unacceptable
Regarding the transmission shifting vibration problem, for what its worth my truck quit vibrating during sixth to fifth shifting about the 600 mile mark; I can’t recall it happening since then and I now have 966 miles. Looks like a few others have noticed the problem disappearing with increased mileage as well.
T Scarbi,
As is mentionioned in my original comment dated Oct. 3, the diesel noise is after cold engine start up, under power for the first 3-4 miles, or until the engine warms up. After that, all is quiet. It is still very annoying and shouldn’t be there on a new engine. After the service rep explained the reason for the noise, I said it sounds like piston slap, and he agreed.
I just got my 2007 Tundra 5.7 crewmax, with only 150 miles i felt the vibration when driving slow. I just got the truck on the 13th of october have not had the truck a week and the truck already had 400 miles and I felt it this morning driving to work. I got rid of my 05 chevy silverado, cause it was giving me to many problems, I got a brand new truck and I already have problems with it…..I’m taking it to the dealership next week so they can look at it. I’ve heard is the transmission, the driveshaft, tires, and the camshaft. Does anyone have any suggestion on what it could really be….???
thanks..
Robert,
There should be no piston slap on that engine. All these engines are made the same way. Some will have defective parts.
My car has the same noise. You start the engine and the noise is there. once you drive it for 3-4 miles or minutes it slowly goes away. That is the crankshaft! When the oil pressures build up and the metal expands the noise goes away. On my old car I solved some of the noise problem by adding a more viscous oil (thicker oil). Piston slap does not go away. Just like diesel engine….it keeps making noise this is to compensate for the enormous pressures involved in igniting the diesel fuel (ignites under extreme pressure) this is the reason diesel engines have more torque.
I will take mine in next week and will post the “excuse” they will give me.
T. Sgarbi: True the warranty will cover this crankshaft issue, but only if it’s resolved within the warranty period. And if it gets worse with time, who knows when the problem may actually arise or become a huge issue.
Couple questions to think about. What about people who purchase these trucks used in a few years once they are out of warranty? Of course the sound would deter me if it sound like that upon start up during my test drive.
Toyota is claiming this is “Normal”, so what if people start having more severe issues outside the warranty period?
Will Toyota extended the warranty then?
Or will Toyota eventually issue a recall?
Justin.
Even though some of us are having this noise issue, does not mean all tundras have this problem.
Depending on the percentage of claims there may be a recall.
When the noise becomes louder they may decide to give you a new engine.
They may also extend the warranty just like BMW did with their 745Li models.
At time of purchase I bought extended warranty to 100K.
The noise level or any other major issue should manifest way before the original 35K warranty or 50k warranty that came with your truck.
Unfortunately right now all you can do is wait and learn to live with it. Maks sure to go to the dealer regularly and complain at every oil change intervals. Ask them to note the esevice records regarding this noise.
T. Sgarbi: From what I can gather, it’s only the 5.7L V8 that is having this noise issue.
If the numbers are big enough and doesn’t only effect the 1st model year, maybe toyota will do a recall similar to that when they had the engine sludge issues.
Only time will tell.
I have a 2007 Crewmax Limited, The only problem I came across with my Tundra since July is the AC vent. Mines is the opposite. I set the vent to my face and it drops to my chest. I haven’t felt or saw the bed bounce on my Tundra. As far as the gauges go the illumination is fine with me but you can’t call the water, oil pressure “Gauges”. How will I know what my actual water running temp will be, or what my oil pressure is? That’s my only gripe it’s little to compare with the 06 Silverado and 03 F-150 I had. Having the 06 Silverado was my worst nightmare. After 2 weeks of owning it, I notice the headliner coming down on all 4 doors of the EXT Cab. By the way after replacing the headliner 7x and losing to arbitration on the lemon law, being accused by the factory REP for pulling down my headliner. Also GM was selling these trucks on the lot with same problem brand new…Sales manager states it’s not defrauding the public when they don’t tell anyone buying one that has that problem that they have a warranty that will replace the headliner with another defective headliner. No recall because it’s not a safety problem. Had the brakes worked on 2x for vibration in the back of truck when applying brakes. Not to mention it cost $100 for the first time and $200 for the second time. Vibration came back. Only had truck 15 months. It was an LT3 their so called best with all the gizmo’s. Needless to say they asked me if I owned another GM crap. I had to tell them they couldn’t fix the truck I got now why own another GM crap. F-150 10x to fix the computer problem it had kept giving the same codes for a bad sensor. I had to get rid of it when Enterprise car rental knew me by name when I came in and guessed the same problem. I can live with a vent problem STRESS FREE….
I HAVE THAT SAME PROBLEM ON MY CREWMAX WERE THE VENT GOES DOWN I WILL TAKE IT TO THE DEALER TO GET THAT FIXED. IT IS NOT A BIG DEAL BUT FOR 45,000 ON A TRUCK EVERYTHING BETTER BE WORKING THE WAY IT SHOULD WITH NO DEFECTS OR ELSE THEY NEED TO FIX IT. ALSO WHAT SUCKS IS THAT IT HAS NO LIGHTING ON THE BUTTONS ON THE DOORS FOR THE WINDOWS OT THE LOCKS. ALSO NO LIGHTING ON THE MIRROR BUTTON TO CLOSE THEM IN AND THE BUTTON NEXT TO IT TO MOVE THE MIRORS THE L/R AND THE ARROW BUTTON. ALSO WITH THE GLARE OF THE SUN YOU CAN’T EVEN READ WHAT TIME IT IS OR EVEN SEE WHAT IT SAYS ON THE RADIO BAD CHOICE OF LOCATION I GUESS. OTHER THAN THAT NO OTHER PROBLEMS SO FAR HAVE 4,000 MILES ON IT I LOVE IT.
Since proper test engineering on the 07 Tundra was not conducted or completed, those of us first year owners that are suffering through these problems should be compensated as test engineers for our patience and disapointments. These disapointments are totally unexpected from Toyota. Answers and solutions are very slow in coming. Just because other truck manufacturers have displayed poor quality performance does not mean that we should accept the same even if its to a lesser degree from Toyota.
R. W. Lightner: Just curious:
How do you know proper engineering testing wasn’t completed?
Where do you get the data that states “Just because other truck manufacturers have displayed poor quality performance”?
Seems to me, by all accounts and reports, the Tundra was delayed to ensure proper testing had been completed. Also, in the truck market, Toyota has not always been the best, but not always the worst in “Quality Performance”. So saying it’s expected from other makes but not Toyota is simply a biased statement.
TOYOTA TUNDRA TRUCKS COULD HAVE BEEN NEAR PERFECT IF MORE TESTING WERE INVOLVED CAUSE SOME OF THE THINGS WRONG WITH IT ARE SO MINOR WHY IS IT THAT THEY DID NOT GET THOSE THINGS FIXED CAUSE I KNOW IT WAS NOT AN ERROR THEY JUST DID NOT WANT TO DO IT RIGHT TO BEGIN WITH I AM NOT NO ENGINEER OR NOTHING AND I NOTICES A LOT OF FACTORY DEFECTS OR ERGONOMIC PROBLEMS WITH IT WHAT THE HELL $45,000 FOR ANNOYING SMALL PROBLEMS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIXED OR MADE BETTER IT’S SAD.
Yes the Tundra COULD have been a near perfect truck, but can’t you also say this about many of the vehicles on the road today? Evidently Toyota felt the truck was well enough designed that it should be released. Ergonomics, well that depends on the driver. Some may like, some may not.
My major concern is, if the Tundra has so many minor issues so soon, what potential major issues may develop down the road. With all the cars & trucks I’ve owned, I’ve found that the vehicles with many minor issues usually end up needing major work later in its life. Could be it was a lemon, or bad R&D by the engineer or a multitude of issues, but they still needed more work than the vehicles with very few minor flaws.
This is why I will never own a 1st model year vechile. Like the manufacturer to work out the bugs and conduct more R&D on the vehicle prior to me speding my $$$ on a vehicle. Most the current Tundra owners should be considered Guine Pigs, as they’re conducting a lot of the research Toyota would have to spend money on. Sure Toyota may have to fix a few, costing them some money anyways, but they are still making money since the owners are paying for the vehicles. Problem is, this type of business practice could end up hurting Toyotas rep and customer loyalty.
Just my thoughts.
I was able to reproduce the rumble stip issue on my truck while at the dealer this morning, but there is no TSB on my particular truck at this time. (5.7RC Long Box build= 8/07).
This leads me to believe that either Toyota does not know the scope of the vehicles affected, or…..
Dealer is checking into it. I’m going to give them the benefit of a doubt, and guess that they are still collecting data and may not know which ones are affected. My advice is to go try it, and if affected, schedule an appointment immediately to give them a better idea who has it. This, in turn, will help them identify more VINs affected and maybe another TSB for some vehicles. It gets much lighter after 600 miles for some. I’m at 750m and what used to shake stuff off of the dash, is now only making 3-8 cycles of whatever is vibrating – almost feels like hitting any bump or crack in the road. I am sure there are more out there that do not know they have the issue since they may have never been in ideal conditions to make it occur – 1100 to 1800 rpm, 30-45mph while on slight upgrade or level ground. Mine occurs almost always at 1000-1150 rpm (just above idle) at 38mph. I almost wrote this off as “Break In”.
Toyota isn’t going to write you a letter asking you to go test this. The more stats they have, the better thier picture of the issue. Get it identified to help them isolate any others out there, especially those who just wrote it off as “break in”.
By the way, I have read posts by others that are able to reproduce it at 6k miles, so dont be to discouraged / encouraged if you are past 600. It may still show up, but then again you may not have the issue either.
The main point here is Toyota owes it to those of us that are trusting owners to acknowledge the problems and come up with solutions sooner. Toyota has not done this!
As an owner of a 2000 Tundra with an eye towards replacing it soon, I have to say I’m glad to have found this blog. Wish that I had found something similar before I bought my first Tundra. I mean, what a great ride and powerful smooth drivetrain, but Toyota stonewalling on the brake issue and the exhaust leak left me with a sense that Toyota indeed is striving to rival the domestics, though not in a good way. Reading all this, I guess they’re up to it again. I understand that a model redesign will render some issues that were not probably expected, but the way Toyota has treated the issues in the past regarding my defective brakes, I don’t think they give a damn once they have your $30K to $40K in the bank. In that way, they ARE rivaling the competition, sad to say. Looks like I’m going to have to look more closely at the Titan and the new Chevy (though I really want to buy the Tundra), before I sign on the dotted line in a few months.
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Once this tranny issue is resolved, I’ll be happy as a lark with this 3/4 ton that i’m getting 24mpg with.
TundraScout: You probably already know this, and posting this just to get at some people, but the Tundra is a 1/2 ton, not a 3/4 ton. Also, if you get a real 3/4 ton diesel you can get 24 mpg’s. The Tundra is one heck of a truck, but wouldn’t compare it to a 3/4 ton in any aspect, except maybe a more comfortable ride.
Hey how about updating the website to include the problems with the tailgate? Be nice to have a tailgate built stronger than a beercan.
I agree with the tailgate. I have a KFX700 and was looking forward to loading it in the back of my 07 Tundra using ramps, but I have seen the pictures and comments.
I see my buddy’s loading them in their trucks without no problems.
Definately a bad point for the Tundra.
Anyone having dash problems? On delivery, there was this seal that had come un-gluded at the bottom right corner where the windshield a-pillar and dash meet. A service foreman assured me that it was no big deal but after three visits the problem is not yet solved. By visit two, I was told the truck would need to spend the day so that the dash could be removed to replace the seal, which is fine actually, if that had happened. The dealer simply cut the seal and sort of stuffed in it place and replaced the a-pillar cover because it was “twisted”. I spent some time looking over the ill-fitting corner and have now noticed that really the dash seems kinda deformed overall. It drops in some places, while rising in others. I wonder, because this truck was one of the “last” 07 models, if it just maybe just sat in the sun all summer and baked? Either way, the dash really shouldn’t warp, and the dealer should easily see and admit the flaw. I hope that Toyota will help remedy this problem. As for the bed issue, I realize that there have been times that, on the highway, I’ve felt as if I’d run over a washboard and the clips for my tonneau cover do knock on the back of the cab – - is this what I’m feeling? In any case, I must sat that any bed wobble issues notwithstanding, the suspension and chassis (double cab, 07, TRD)are way better in practice than my last f-150(04, Lariat), especially off road, over tracks) Hmmm, I wonder if the bed wobble is really an issue. Looking at it is kinda freaky, feeling the “washboard” feeling is also, but again, in general daily use the truck is really good. Well, if it is a problem, I hope Toyota will deal with the issue – - in that regard, Ford was really tough (to deal with)!
1. My qualifications to comment on vehicle quality and performance: Bought my first car 32 years ago and my last 3 months ago. Have owned 27 vehicles, 18 of which were purchased new. 12 of them were pickups, 3 were vans, and 3 SUV’s. 2 were foreign spec (purchased while living in the UK and Japan). I admit to having a problem staying away from car lots.
2. My personal experience: The only vehicles that never had to go in for warranty work were Dodge trucks, Jeeps, and Mini Cooper.
3. Worst experience was with a ‘04 Chev 3/4 ton 4X4. Truck leaked puddles of water into the cab when it rained. After the dealer tried for a month to fix it, convinced GM to do a trade re-purchase of the truck. At least they made the situation right.
4. All vehicles are engineered and built by people, which makes them not perfect.
5. No matter how much you spend, you will find faults with the vehicle. The warranty exists as the manufacturer’s good faith guarantee that they will stand by their product if it fails. If you’re an idiot and think you will torture test the vehicle to see what breaks, you will find out, but it won’t be the manufacturer’s fault.
6. If you take exception to or are offended by the term idiot used in the above paragraph, I challenge you to log on to youtube.com and search for videos of people doing dumb things with cars and trucks. You will see what I mean.
7. I bought an 07 Toyota Tundra 4X4 SR5 doublecab with a 5.7 litre engine. I have put 5000 miles on it in 3 months. The following are issues with it:
a. When brand new, it had a terrible shimmy/vibration felt through the steering wheel at 65-75 mph. The dealer balanced the wheels, replaced 1 tire (Michilin), and couldn’t resolve the problem. Finally, they checked the run out in the wheels and found one rear to be out of round. The rim was replaced and the vibration went away.
b. The guages are hard to see in the day time wearing sun glasses. Big deal. Every car I’ve owned has had an issue with the guages, i.e. not enough of them, can’t see them, obscured by the steering wheel, etc. Cars are built to fit the statistically averge human, which I have never met but am sure I am not him.
c. The truck has the smoothest shifting auto trans I have ever experienced in any vehicle. It does not hunt for gears, downshifts nicely and provides reasonable compression braking. Also has Tow/haul mode.
d. The engine clatters a little when cold for the first mile. I attribute this to the fact it is overhead cam and has 32 valves, which is a lot of valve train to contend with. Valve trains typically have some lash in the system when they are cold before being completely lubricated and before the metal parts expand and take up the lash. The engine also has variable valve timing which is continually adjusting the engine timing, and this system could play a part in the cold clatter effect. I disagree with the people who think they have piston slap or bad cranks.
e. I have not torture tested my tailgate, but I weigh 200 pounds and have stood on it and it hasn’t caved in. I agree, you shouldn’t have to remove your tailgate when you haul stuff, but also recognize that the tail gate is intended to keep items from falling out of the bed, not necessarily act as an extension of the bed floor, so can see both sides of the argument of weak tailgate.
f. The truck is a magnet. If I park it far out in a lonely part of a parking lot, when I come back to it 4 cars will be parked next to it. I think this phenomenon is caused by people trying to get a better look at it. Had the same problem with my Mini Cooper S.
8. Summary: There is no perfect vehicle. Some are more reliable than others, and any of them can be a lemon — just hope you didn’t buy one. Everyone has an opinion and they will vary greatly. Toyota intends to sell millions of Tundras, and has about 200,000 of them on the road right now. Everyone is not happy with them but most are. I like mine.
That diesel noise from the engine is in fact variable valve timing related. Why? I still hear it sometimes even with the engine hot and been driven for a while not just cold engines. My 2005 F150 had this problem. Ford changed the sprockets on the valve timing mechanism or something like that, and it did most definetly fixed it.
Two different representatives of Toyota today told me in clear terms that they will not redo,upgrade,change anything due to a design flaw. Unless there is a recall or a broken part they told me nothing will be done by them. That is their policy as stated to me today. They said that design flaws are addressed in a later new vehicle and not before. There, what do you think of that?
My Double Cab shook so hard it made my legs numb from 52-67mph and dealer woun’t fix it. The transmission also shakes too but it was different. I learned to live with the lighting issues but after 4,500 miles and three months the engine let loose last Monday…typical Monday. This is totally unacceptable. I suspect that the camshaft sheared, will find out what the dealer autopy uncovers tomorrow. My 03 F150 was virtually flawless and put through major abuses but never failed me once; just sucked gas like most full sized trucks do. Now I am relegated to driving around in a sienna loaner for the next two weeks. Worse yet the door doesn’t want to shut for some reason. Does anyone know what the lemon laws are in Colorado? Other than looking different from the crowd, I’m not getting my monies worth, rough ride, blown motor, vibrations and now I question the reliability which signals a major paradigm change at toyota. Now I’m hearing about tailgate issues which I haven’t had to use much just yet but I weigh over 280 pounds and the horror stories are starting at 180 pounds. Any suggestions?
Frustrated, mad and very concerned in Colorado.
My brother purchased a Tundra and has since traded it in for a new F-250. Too many problems with his 5.7L 4×4. The $7,000 cash back was his first reason to buy. Not worth the money. Me: Toyota loyal but am now thinking they have begun to slack. Perhaps its time to go back to Ford, too?
Colorado_Stan: I’d return that Sienna loaner if I were you. Maybe the reason the door won’t shut is due to the reason listed below. I’d consider this a recall, but evidently Toyota doesn’t.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/to.....ivans.html
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/1.....ll-mind-y/
http://blogs.cars.com/kickingt.....it-a-.html
http://blogs.cars.com/kickingt.....it-a-.html
Also check this out about the Tundra. the transmission issue everyone is having is the Torque Convertor:
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/1.....ty-issues/
and as this link states, “Yes, the Toyota Tundra has had a very rough week, but it’s no more difficult than the time Tundra owners spend with trucks that don’t work as advertised.”
any have or know about the 22″ TRD rims? please respond
I was on a rough road on my ranch and evidently the bouncing has caused my Tundra DC truck bed to smash into the cab. I wasn’t even going very fast either. It has a 5″ x 2″ crease in the sheet metal and the paint is all scuffed up too on the other side. The only thing I can think of is that the bed was loose or that the frame flexed too much. The bed doesn’t appear to be loose. The dealer is balking at fixing it but he will…trust me. I guess this is also the result of all that vibration that I have been feeling around the transmission and in back. I have had no satisfaction since the second week I owned our Texas made truck. I am real close to going back to an F250 King Ranch. This is unacceptable; I never had these kinds of problems with F-series or GM’s.
This whole internet blogging on the Tundra, has caught the Auto Industry off guard, not just Toyota. I bet we start seeing a few news articles just about auto blogs in the near future.
Blogs have both bad and good points however (here comes both barrels):
Bad:
Anyone can post to a lot of different public boards, for personal interest sake or for whatever motivates them, and try to sway public opinion – These people are also known as POSERS. When busted, it makes them look stupid, vendictive, manipulative and says alot about thier character. Sure, its a free country, so voice your opinions, but when opinion bends fact, it is usually easy to spot for the trained eye.
I’ve seen posts about how Americans buying Japanese cars are “Ruining our heritage.” Isnt this MY heritage also to do with what I want? If your thinking “no”, then you might as well join the Socialist party, if you haven’t already done so.
“Not supporting the American Worker” is another one I read alot. I am glad that the United States has trade agreements with Japan, so that the money I spend on thier cars is also eventually spent on Quality American products. This means that the best PRODUCT wins, which pushes further competition in the entire market, making the consumer the ultimate winner. As much as some people hate the Tundra, they’ll be glad when thier automaker of choice goes back to the drawing board and redesigns something BETTER THAN THE STATUS QUO. How many vehicles have not been evaluated to create a better product in over 10-20 years? Good is Good, agreed, but what about BETTER?
I’m as Patriotic and American as anyone else. I buy Toyotas because I believe they make the best overall product. I am an American and it is my right to choose how I spend my money. I never knew there were so many Ford salesmen online. Looks like they are all finding thier way to this site now to demonize Toyota…To bad, now there is no more credibility left for this site.
Good:
I’m going to go out on a limb and bet that Toyota will start a blog site that will allow only Toyota OWNERS to post opinions, observations and reliable information and allow OWNERS to even grip about things they dislike but without the rehtoric of non-owners.
Blogging has brought about change in the vehicle us OWNERS love, and yes, sometimes love to hate (e.g. tailgate issue, etc).
More on the good news. If you guys weren’t so SCARED of the Tundra overtaking the market *at some point in the near future, and making your buying decision a less popular one, you wouldn’t even post here.
I’m off to a diffent, more closely moderated site where factual knowledge is being shared and someone is not telling me the sky is falling. I already made MY best choice for a vehicle, and now I am doing the same with this website.
TundraScout: I’m not for or against the Tundra, just prefer to point out the facts. You have your opinion, which is fine, to each their own. But to try to discredit people who post here or all other sites as “Posers”, well you get that with any site, no matter what site you go to, sports, auto, etc.
I’ll admit the Tundra has some amazing qualities, like the powertrain, brakes and cab size. In other aspects, it’s not as good as other makes, such as payload and ride quality for a couple. This is simply a fact, not being biased. The Tundra was/is supposed to be more reliable and built better than other makes, being this is what you expect from Toyota, but so far it has not proven to be either.
Every 1st year model has it’s issues, which are usually worked out by the 2nd or 3rd model year, which I have stressed all along. We’ll see if CR puts the Tundra 4X4 back on their recommended list at that time.
Now you talk about posers and people being biased, which is completely okay, but you are showing these same biased tendancies. Be a loyal Toyota fan, that’s your right, but don’t be blind to the facts that this truck has exhibited issues. Not everybody that states they have an issue are posers, many may be people that purchased the truck because of the advertising, but have been dissappointed by the results. To discredit the Tundra issues, is to also discredit the Toyota engine sludge issue, the Tacoma surge/acceleration issue, Sienna door opening by itself and many more issues. Seems like you try to make the Toyota product out to be flawless, which is becoming less and less common now days.
Ford fans? So where do you think the Tundra is getting it’s truck buying population from? I would venture to guess the majority of Tundra purchasers are formerly domestic truck owners, not your typical Camry/Corolla owner. Still for the time being, I don’t see the domestics being too scared of this Tundra, but maybe in a few years. With the issues stressed so far and the fact the Tundra is still selling less than a 1/3 of what Ford sells in the truck market, let alone what all the other domestics sell.
So go where you like, post what you like, just need to keep in mind people many times come to these sites to provide an unbiased, objective opinions. Not just what your opinion is.
It’s me again. I guess I’m one of the lucky 10’s of thousand that at 12,000 miles have had no complaints or defects to report or complain about. It’s the best truck I’ve ever owned. By the way I use my tailgate to offset my load lengths being lumber or even steel beams and my tailgate hasn’t buckled. I do distribute the weight accordingly to quantity so that the whole bed and tailgate absorb the weight evenly. Since this truck has performed to my expectation and work load requirements, I’m getting ready to add another possible 2 units to my construction fleet! I will keep this site updated to the progress of my Tundras……. TOYOTA MOVING ME FORWARD TROUBLE FREE and out the Dealership Service Department!!!!!!!!!
Nachy Valledor: I believe your fashion of loading in the bed will keep the tailgate in good shape. Evenly distribute the weight, so no large amount of weight is located on one specific portion of the tailgate. This may be a problem with an ATV and such items, as it is a little difficult to evenly spread the weight over the entire tailgate, unless you place some plywood underneath the wheels that covers the entire surface.
Glad to see your Tundra is doing well. The owners of these problematic Tundras may be few and far between, but it’s always the ones that have issues that you hear about, almost never the flawless ones.
How about this one.
Tundra owners grumble over rumble
Toyota’s Tundra pickup was hit with a double whammy last week. Angry consumers are peppering the Internet with complaints that the torque converter in the 2007 Tundra’s six-speed transmission has problems disengaging during gearshifts — a problem that Toyota acknowledges. Meanwhile, the Tundra 4×4 model took a broadside from magazine, which rated it “below average” in projected reliability. Of the 150,000 Tundra’s Toyota believe it effects all trucks equiped with the 5.7L engine and the 6-Speed Gear Box. The combination accounts for 70% of the Tundra sales to date effecting nearly 100,000 Trucks. The supplier of the torque converter Aisin, would not Comment.
Automotive News 10/22/07
The reason I did not buy the 5.7L with the 6-speed gear box is that both are brand new units with no track record. I opted for the 4.7L with the 5 speed box which has basically been around forever. However,now, with 1,000 miles on the truck, I’ve developed a dull ringing sound in the tranny everytime I put it in gear. In neutral or park the truck is whisper quiet. The minute I put it into gear (forward or reverse) I get this dull metallic ringing sound.I also hear it going 30 to 40 MPH when you depress and release the accelerator. Foot on the gas, the ring is there. Take your foot off the gas, the ring goes away. What moves in the tranny the instant you put the truck in gear even though you don’t move? Torque converter??? Anyone have this bug or any comments?
I took it to the dealership and the service guy did not want to beleive me that I had a vibration of my transmission, he looked at me like I was stupid, he had the service manager test drive the truck and he came back and told me that I had a problem with my tires….I thought it was crazy that the tires were going to be the problem, I told him what I had read about the torque converter but he said not to read what is on the internet, he said is not always true. He emailed a truck specialist for Toyota and that specialist called him and told him it was going to be the torque converter that they are aware of the problem and they are running some test to come out with a good solution to the problem, he said that there is only 6 known cases that have been reported with the same issue. The service manager told me that as soon as Toyota comes out with a bulletin on what to do with the issue he would give me a call to take care of the problem. But I guess all the people that have posted a blog in here saying that there truck is messing up, take it to the dealer and report it so that they are aware of more issues with the trucks ..don’t just write about it..let them know that you have a issue with your truck that way Toyota can take care of the issue…
Question? I am not a bug fan of Imports. Hell, I was born and raised in a GM family. But I have one question out there for those of you that are buying the imports. If American car companies were building cars that Consumer Reports and the media told you were better would you choose a American vehicle over a Import for the sake of American jobs and keeping the money with a american company?
Keep in mind I know the Tundra is built in Texas, I also know that almost all Toyota’s sold in the US are made here. I am just asking from a American pride position.
I live the metro detroit and all my family and friends drive GM, Ford and Dodge so I don’t have anyone to ask that questions.
Thanks
hi folks
well i have 1200 miles on it now and no problems at all the vibration seems to have left around 650 miles. what a sweet vehicle c u round.
I own a Tundra Limited with 5.7L engine. It has 2300 miles on the odometer. It was manufactured in January 2007. I have the vibration ride issue and am also scheduled to have my torque converter replaced by Toyota for the vibration / surging from the transmission.
anyone have the TRD 22″ Rims? any pics how are they?
I am also am having my torque converter replaced
My truck sounds like a diesel engine for the first 5mi. or so every morning, is this normal? I also have the 5.7
Rich,
That is the same problem I have. other 5.7 owners in this forum have the same issue.
This is not a simple solution it is definitely a defect in the engine,
I am taking mine in because it is getting louder
Will post any information I gather
My truck also does not want to shift right away in the morning for the first few mi.
I love my 07 tundra, have had to have the tail gate fixed as it quit opening but the dealer repaired it, no problem.
Now, however, the ac doesn’t seem to be draining and the cab now smells like a locker room. When I first start it up it is so bad, someone asked what had died in there. I have taken it to the dealer and they said it drained great for them.. ‘course. But it does not drain now and I took it back yesterday.
I used to be a mechanic and now how they work. They guy at the dealer doesn’t want to listen to me. The mechanic has yet to call me back… I will let you know. Has anyone else had this problem? It is less then 3 months old.
I just purchased a 5.7 DC two weeks ago, and the first time I had the “rumble strips”, I thought something in the drivetrain was getting ready to come apart. I called the dealership to explain the issue, and he finished my sentence for me. He was well aware of the issue, and he told me it would get better as I drove it, and if it continued after 3,000 miles, he wanted me to contact him. To his credit, it is less severe now, but it happens more frequently. I’m too embarrased to give anyone a ride in my new truck now. I’m not sure if this will “go away” (which I’m affraid will only manifest in other transmission problems later), but I did go to the TOYOTA website and log a formal complaint with my VIN # to document this. I really do like this truck, and I’ve had several FORD pickups F150/250’s, but this truck is twice the truck of a current F150. 380 horse with 18 mpg… I’m sold. I’m just hoping it will be as reliable as my FORDs have been. Concerned Razorback.
Heath Ownes: I’m confused with your post. You state you’re afraid you may have future trans. issues, have already filed a complaint with Toyota, hope the truck is as reliable as your Fords and are embarrased to give people rides, but then claim the Tundra is twice the truck. I personally can’t see how you can see the Tundra is twice the truck, based soley off the MPG & HP, without factoring the issues/concerns you just stated at only 3K miles. To each their own, but I’d rather take a truck that gets a little worse MPG and a little less HP but is more reliable and less embarrassing. Just me.
Just like Heath, i am over 2K miles with the “rumble strips” problem on a 5.7 4×4. Saturday will be the 3rd time to the dealer to ID the problem, so please keep sending info on what your respective dealer is doing to fix the problem. I’m by no means ashamed of the truck; in fact, just the opposite. My family tends get well over 300K on Toyotas and i expect the same with my Tundra. Justin – i take it you do not own a Toyota truck, so i’m confused with your post. Don’t you have better things to do then cruise Toyota blogs? Or are you just educating yourself before a purchase?
Justin: Listen, I am concerned with my transmission right now, and I am embarrassed that $35K in a new truck and it vibrates like this! I am confident that TOYOTA is going to stand by their product and correct this. I just wanted to document it for the future if indeed my current vibration continues to lessen to the point it does go away. Anyone who is objective about the product itself will also come to the conclusion that the TOYOTA is built much stronger than the domestics. In a gasoline truck, you will not find one with as much motor, rear gear, and brakes than the tundra. It turns tighter, and blows the domestics away with it’s safety features. I work in my truck, and besides the DODGE, none of them come close to features like the center console and available storage. I dismissed the TOYOTA when I first started shopping, because I personally do not care for the looks of the front-end that much. FORDS have always looked best in my opinion, but once I looked at the features of the TOYOTA, it was a no brainer for me. Each to his own though. Like someone earlier stated, I just don’t want a lot of field engineering on my truck, just because it’s a new model. That’s my concern in a nutshell. If this year model doesn’t prove to beat the domestics in reliability, I promise you it won’t be long. I bought it for the expected reliability and the features that out-classed the domestics in my view. Time will tell.
HO
Mark Wooten: I cruise all makes site, Nissan, Ford, GM, Dodge, Honda and this site. I prefer to be educated on any decision I make. I like to find out what problems a vehicle has, from current owners, prior to making a large purchase. I do not own a Toyota currently, but have friends and family that have in the past and do currently, mostly 4runners but also a Corolla, two Tacoma’s and a 1st Gen Tundra. I’ve owned Nissan (cars) in the past and own two currently as well as a domestic 1/2 ton. I really have no preference make/model. I read magz, which can be biased, but usually let the owners inform me how a particular model performs. It’s a fine line with sites like this, cause you get biased posts from both loyal and non-loyal fans. I must determine who’s shooting straight and who’s full of it. That’s why you’ll see in almost everyone of my posts, that I admit each make has its strong points, but also have their drawbacks. Some people are just so brand loyal, they can’t see the truth. So thanks for the inquiry, I just can’t and won’t be swayed by anyones personal bias, good or bad.
HO: Thanks for the heads up. Was simply curious why you felt the Tundra was twice the truck, but were so concerned/embarassed by it. I admit, the powertrain of the Tundra is the best on the market. I’m sure Toy will stand by their product, as usual, and your needing to document issues. This is partly why I refuse to purchase a 1st or even a 2nd model year vehicle, of any make. Too many bugs to work out. So far the 2WDs are proving to be pretty reliable, but the 4X4 versions are having their issues. Most notably the flag ship 5.7L w/6spd trans. Of course Toy has had the 4.7L and 5spd in the previous Gen. Tundra, so most the bugs have been worked out of them. I’m glad you like the truck and hope you continue to inform us on the performance and reliability of it. I’m all for the latest and greatest, just won’t jump at any item of this value for the “Got to have it” and “It’s a Toyota” mentality. Good luck with your Tundra!
I thought I would follow-up on my posts of Oct. 3rd and 18th. regarding the diesel engine sound in my 5.7 Tundra. I left my truck at the dealers in the evening, explained the engine noise and left instructions that I would be back in the morning to ride with a service tech to confirm the noise with the engine cold and under acceleration. I arrived that morning and was asked to wait a few minutes for a tech. After 25 minutes of waiting, I asked when we could go for a test ride. To my surprise, I was told that the service tech had already started the engine and tried it in the parking lot until the engine was warm. This is not what I requested, as the noise really becomes evident under mild acceleration with the engine cold. Now that the engine had warmed up, we went for our test ride. Of course it is now quiet. Again I was told that this noise is common with this engine due to piston expansion and contraction,and that the reason that I am aware of it is because the rest of the truck is so quiet!!! The repair order confirms a noise coming from the engine compartment but unable to verify any indication of needed repair. I guess the only answer is to smile and turn up the radio.
Rob Lee: Thanks for the update. This is why I hate dealing with some dealerships, never listen and think they know what’s best. This is why I only shop/have service at dealerships I’ve found to respect my word and business, not say/do what they like.
Either way, I can not see this being good for the truck, then again I’m no engineer. I have never heard any gas engine, from a 4 cylinder to a 10 cylinder sound like that. I understand expansion/contraction, but why so severe on one particular engine model? Wouldn’t many makes/models of cars/trucks with the same type of build format have this same issue/noise? This is not an isolated problem, because many have expressed it. Kind of like the GM Piston Slap issue, many people have it, GM dealers say it’s not a big issue/normal GM won’t fix the issue, so what are you to do?
Good luck on finding a resolution. Keep us posted!
hey all
to my surprise the dealer i bought my truck from called me today, the guy said toyota is aware of the tranny vibration and they should have a fix in a couple weeks and they would call me. i am very happy with the truck and have no complaints. i will keep ya’ll posted
my 07 double cab 5.7 limited vibrates at speeds between 30 – 40. it has something to do with 5th gear. if i put the shifter in manual mode and keep the transmission in 4th gear the noise and vibration go away. i also don’t like the fact that the sonar doesen’t pick up objects straight in front of the vehicle. i can run straight into a post or any object without the alarm making any noise. it works on the corners and in the rear but toyota didn’t put any sensors in the front middle section. since most parking these days is straight in. a sensor in the front middle would have been nice
Robert Lee: Sorry to hear about your experience at the dealership — they just don’t listen to you sometimes unless you rant and rave. The explanation they gave you doesn’t make much sense to me either…if the truck is so quiet, why can you hear anything at all?
Mike: The sensors are flawed, no doubt. Unfortunately, it’s a common problem with that technology. Ford had that system before Toyota, and they had the same problem. Of course, adding another sensor would have helped…
So much for the torque converter replacement. Still have the same problem. Waiting on word from Toyota for the next procedure.
GT: As stated in the cam-shaft blog, I’m sorry to hear the TC replacement didn’t fix the problem and wonder what steps Toyota took in fixing the TC. Did they make any modifications to the TC’s or are they simply swapping out the TC with another that is sitting in a warehouse. If no corrections were made to the TC, I’d venture to guess you’ll continue to have this issue until they do.
Keep us posted, as I’m sure we’re all suprised this was the reported issue, but hasn’t seemed to fix the problem, at least for you. Haven’t heard of anyone else having the TC replaced yet, but hopefully others will post their experience. Good luck and I hope you find a quick resolution.
Guess what? My wife drove the Tundra to work today. I was following her home in another vehicle. No tail lights on the Tundra. Arrived at home. Checked and found that I had no tail lights, turn signals from the rear lights. No lamp or turn signal on either tow mirror. No fog lights and no parking lights. Checked all the normal fuses. Could find no blowm ones. Guess this will be the fourth trip to the dealership. Wonder if they will pay for my time for missing work? Also I really have no information on the torque converter they replaced last Monday. I now have 3200 miles on the vehicle. What’s going to happen next? I really want to keep this vehicle because I do like the styling, interior and towing ability but the frustration is growing.
My 07′ crewmax Tundra has 5600 miles on it and yesterday when I went to go put gas on it the Distance To Empty MPG did not go up it stayed at 17MPG it is now 12 and on the fuel gage it reads a 1/4 tank according to the needle guess I will be paying the dealer a visit soon.
Does anyone hear a whistling noise like when you have the window cracked open just a little and you are driving at freeway speeds. Well on my 07′ crewmax with all the windows closed and the a/c andm radio off you hear that noise at freeway speeds it is very annoying I have to give the radio up kind of loud so that I won’t have to hear that whistling noise I am going to have to take it to the dealer that can’t be the way it suppose to be they need to fix that.I don’t know exactly were the noise is coming from though but I will let the guys at the dealer figure that out.
GT: I feel for you. Was your truck one of the 1st to roll off the assembly line?
Of course the lack of fogs, tails & mirror lamps sounds to be a short of some sort. Had a similar issue with an ‘85 Ranger, but I was able to trace it back to the source and fix the issue myself. Of course this was after the truck was already 10+ years old & 100+K miles. Now for only having 3200 miles and a $30-$40K truck, this should not be happening.
Don’t think the dealer will pay for your missed work, most never have and never will. I know some good dealerships that may give you a couple free oil changes and stuff of that sort, but not pay for missed work.
When you do return to the dealership, maybe question them about the TC and pry as much info. as possile from them. Like what modifications Toyota has made to the TC, if any, to recify the vibration. Ask them how many other TC’s they’ve replaced so far. Stuff like that, just so you can understand the severity of the issues expressed, from the dealers standpoint.
Jose: On your gas issue, sounds like a sending unit. Warranty will fix this easily.
For the whistle, check the windshield area. I’ve found more and more cars windshields aren’t being secured with adhesive as well from the assebly line. Also, did you install any Vent Visors or a Bug Guard? I’ve heard these can make a whistling noise on certain vehicles.
No I did not install any vent visors or a bug guard.
We have two 07 4X4 limited 5.7 L, and one DC 4.7L, we live in the mojave desert, and beat these trucks through desert you wouldnt want to walk across, so far no trouble, but hey there new. I break everything I drive offroad, if they dont hold up to my abuse, I will change the name on the back to TUNA,, SMELLY WHITE, BWWAAAHAAAA BTW these 5.7L motors roost real nice like. George, Mojave Desert Kalexico
Justin,
I was just being facetious about the dealer paying for time from work. I took the Tundra to the dealership this morning. I was there about 45 minutes.
I asked the repairman what had caused the problem with the lights. He just smiled and said I would have to ask the service rep. The service rep walked out and told me it was all fixed and ready to go. I asked him what had cause the electrical problem and he told me that a pin on one of the main connections to the fuse box had been bent. He told me it has probably been like that ever since I got the vehicle in March. I just kind of looked at him since I know I had the lights two weeks ago. Anyway to make a long story short. I believe one of the service techs had probably reconnected the plug in a hurry and probably bent it when I was in there on Monday or when they installed my trailer brake controller earlier. Any way, everything works and mistakes happen.
Oh, I may have jumped to conclusions when I stated that the torque converter did not solve my transmission problem. It actually may have. I have not experienced any of the shimmy lately. I may have mistaken some road virbration for the vibration I had been having in the transmission. I almost forgot; I asked the service rep about the torque converter problem. He stated that he knew of only two other Tundras that have came to his dealership with the problem. He didn’t have to much to say about it other than the newer production Tundras have not had any problems. My vehicle had been manufactured in January of this year.
Thanks for your input.
GT
Had a 01 F-150 for 6 1/2 years. Great truck. Only a $100 repair on the idler control valve. I figured to try Tundra. Great truck for the most part.
But some concerns,
The vibrations at slow acceleration before it shifts. Engine reacting poorly or the transmission having problems shifting smoothly?
I needed more aggressive tires so I traded for 285/65/18 BFG AT. The steering wheel shakes on asphalt at different speeds. They’re having problems balancing them. Due to balancing only on the inside of the rim. Or are these tires bad that I got. I have ran BFG AT tires for 18 years. And love them. My last set had 62k with going throw this winter before thinking of replacing them. Wont say there the best, but they treated me good.
I was thinking of adding a 3″ lift. Is this a dumb idea? I don’t want to pay for a headache.
Thanks for any insight
Jerry
it could be your torque converter
as far as the lift kit
I put a ready lift kit about 3″ on my CreMax and a 1″ block on the back
it didnt stop the rippeling vibration
but it looks hot!
d
bed bounce. tailgate problems. takes gas. camshaft. cheap interior. vibirates
I have a double cab 07 tundra 5.7 ,captain chairs with 7,000 miles. When I put the truck in park, release the break, the shifter will shift forward some making a noise. Anyone else having that problem?
Jason — are you parking on an incline? If so, that sound is the weight of the truck resting on your transmission. Set your parking brake before releasing your foot off the regular brake and you’ll keep the weight off the transmission.
I have a 5.7 CrewMax 4×4 that has had wheel balance issues since day 1. Been to the dealer 3x and they have replaced 1 tire they said was bad. Bridgstone Dueler H/T 255/70 R18. I now have about 4000 miles and it still shakes. I cannot believe Toyota put these tires on a 4×4, also the two front tires always look low on air even though they are filled properly. I know these tire SUCK but could it be something else that causes my steering wheel to shake?
Great Site.
Jesse
Also, anyone else in Central Texas having trouble with Toyota service departments? I had a 99 Landcruiser before my Tundra and everytime I took it in for service I was dissapointed.
mrlister: Maybe have them look into the Rims themselves. I’ve heard there have been problems with the tires, when replaced the shake has gone away. Others have replaced tires and as a last resort the dealer replaced a rim or two which fixed the shake. Not sure if it was the 18″ rims or not, but it’s something to look at. Not sure if there was some bad casting of the rims or not, but this does seem to be an issue with many 07 Tundra owners.
mrlister: My Tundra with the 18″ 6 spoke aluminum wheels had a severe vibration felt through the steering wheel when new. The dealer replaced one tire (Michelin) but the vibration remained. They finally checked the wheels for run-out and found the right rear to be out of round. They replaced the wheel and I’ve had no more problems.
Admin: Reguarding the shifter shifting after it is in park and after releasing the break. I spoke with a guy at my Toyota dealership and he said that he has had some calls about the same problem I am having. He said one guy has complained about that same problem since he bought the truck new. The guy at the dealership has a 07 Tundra and he said he noticed it on his new truck as well.
This happens most of the time whether I park on an incline, decline, or just flat. I do use my parking break when needed to avoid this problem. I guess I will have to wait and see if more people have this problem before anything can be done about it.
I have a 2007 Double Cab Tundra SR-5 with the 5.7L. I packed the bed full and shut the tailgate. When I went to open it the tailgate wouldn’t open. The hinges are connected to a rod via a plastic clip which broke. Toyota had a TSB for it. Would have been nice to know before I filled the bed.
Interesting question from Brian about whether the average Toyota buyer would even consider buying a domestic even if all the reviews and rating said the domestic was better. My hunch is they wouldn’t. There seems to be an emotional bias that can prejudice the way people view the quality of their cars, generally favorably for Toyotas/Hondas and unfavorably for Ford/GM/Dodge.
An example: the JD Power quality ratings for the Toyota Matrix are reasonably good, but for the Pontiac Vibe they are significantly poorer. But since these two cars are mechanically identical (save some lights and trim) and are assembled by the same people in the same factory, how could their quality be that different? The answer is that they can’t. So is the difference in the quality rating, based on owner surveys, most likely that the Matrix owners have a higher impression of the quality of their vehicle simply because it’s a “Toyota” versus a “Pontiac”? (Note that this quality rating is broken down by mechanical aspects on which neither the selling dealer nor the servicing dealer can have any effect.)
‘07 5.7 DC No problems hands down the best truck out right now. I drove every truck out except the Titan, THERE IS NO COMPARISON. I havent had any problens with my truck and everyone who rides in it cant stop talking about how nice it rides. For all you Tundra haters out there all I can say is I can out tow you, I can out haul you, I can out run you and my interior is nicer than any domestic truck made (except the Sierra Denali)SO DONT HATE CONGRATULATE
Okay I had not read anything about the “Vibration” in the transmission. Drive home noticed a vibration as if we were going over strips in the road. Service Dept had no idea of what it could be. I found online other issues similar. Toyota “IS AWARE” of this issue as being the “Torque Converter” They replaced it but it still had transmission issues, it pulled to the right pretty bad and the stereo was “Possed”! Toyota showed little to NO empathy for my Frustration with buying a $34K vechicle “CASH” just to have it needing serviced 2 in less than the first 20 days of buying it! Well I being Frustrated & Determined to get someones attention…I took White & Yellow paint and wrote all over my windows how I was an “UHAPPY CUSTOMER of Mariana Toyota…New Truck Owner”! I put my phone # and my e-mail address and sent my husband to the dealer for yet “Another” service call! Oh did I get someones Attention! The Owner understood and heard my Voice and Frustration! He was NOT liking the “BAD” advertising sitting up front and center of his lot! As it turned out they took back the 2007 and put us into a 2008! This dealership Went the distance and did what it took to make this right! We can’t yet relax and are finding we are “PARONOID” that someting will go wrong with this truck too! WE are just hoping that TOYOTA learned how to resolve the issues prior to the release of the 2008! TOYOTA NEEDS TO SHOW MORE CONERN AND CARE FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS! We all work hard for our Money & we expect a “QUALITY” Purchase!
WAY TO GO MARIANA TOYOTA!
Right On Lisa!
Matt
I bought one too. You just wait for your little surprise. When I bought mine I thought it was awesome too, but overtime I noticed rippling vibrations more and more.
As you drive on different road conditions this may become more apparent to you as well
I was always in love with the Tundras. When I could afford one I started looking at 05s & 06s. After finding that the 07 was just a little more I bought one, in fact it’s an 08(built 10/07). This truck is a lemon with only 663 miles on it and having it for 2 weeks, today I noticed that is sounds like diesel, it also have a squeeking noise when the brakes are depressed a parking lot speed, there is a developing noise in the dash and the driver’s side window squeaks when going up.
I am a HVAC mechanic with 25 years of experience with pumps, motors and other mechanical systems. I told my wife today that this truck was not put together right and it will not get quieter or fix itself after break in. I am scheduled to have the back up camera installed and if I did not prepay for it, I would cancel it.
I waited a long time to buy a new vehicle and I was always partial to the Tundra. It is disappointing to put 35K in a vehicle that is noiser than my 96 Buick.
Next week I plan to go the dealer to have the camera installed and will walk with a laundry list.
However as I said being a HVAC Mech I know that I am going to get the run around from the dealer. I plan to sell this truck after the winter regardless s it was poorly put together.
I work hard for my money and I like to get waht I pay for and all this truck is, a head turner.
I am not eager to get into this truck anymore as I don’t know what other abnormal noise I will hear next.
Please forgive the grammar…very upset!!!
I’m a long time Toyota owner. I have a 1991 V6 that had the head gasket leak and they recalled the Truck with over 87,000 miles on it to repair it.
They rebuilt the Engine because it etched the heads and block.
They offered to put all new parts( Waterpump, Timing Belt, Bearings, Clutch etc)all at their cost with no labor since they had to rebuild it anyways.
So yes, Toyota will fix problems long after the warranty expires if they have a known problem.
Getting them to admit to the problem is one thing.
I see the 07 camry’s and Tacoma’s also are having Tranny problems and they have been very slow to address these issues.
That said, I really wanted a new Tundra but this new Truck has so many issues right now there is no way I’m buying one.
The 08’s still have the rumble strip issue and Toyota thought it was the TC. We’ll apparently not.
The Bed and exterior metal is so thin it will dent just by leaning on it.
The wheel wells are so thin they are easily dented by just stepping on them.
The tailgate is a joke.
The interior is poorly designed and cheap looking with all the plastic and the dash is painted instead of having the color molded in.
The Guages on the Truck I test drove were very hard to see in the daytime. I think they are set to far in.
The bed bounce is real and Toyota is aware of this and they are engineering a fix as we write.
Toyota was in such a rush to get this truck to market they made some crucial mistakes.
Toyota’s top dog in Japan has already said he is ashamed of the new Tundra.
I have faith that Toyota will improve the quality of the Tundra. They will have to because there is a ton of negative press already about the actual issues with it.
I still want a Tundra but I’m going to wait for the 09’s at the very least.
I have owned 4 Tundras since 1999 this 07 5.7 trd Crew Max is the first I have had a problem with, the Dealership replaced the tranny and converter at 500 miles no problems after that I now have 17-250 miles on the truck hwy miles avg. 18.2 at around 80 mph two trips to Fla from Ky in last 2 months power is great ride very smooth have no bed bounce only complaint pass side front seat not enough room guages hard to read door height to short for 6.3 man turning ,parking is 1000% improved over 2006 double cab no problem with tailgate
As a technician for nissan/infiniti, I know what kind of problems arise from new vehicles but you guys have to understand that there are so many toyotas produced out there to the public that it is destined to have a portion out of the big numbers to have problems. Do you know what kind of problems the nissan titan had when it came out? lets just say we had a whole row of 12 bays dedicated for titans and there was problems throughout the vehicle, differential being too small and burning out,exhaust manifolds cracking,rattles,brakes/rotors every 3000 miles and etc. From what i remember the titan was more of failure but nobody cared because it was just a nissan and not a toyota that everyone wants to attack.
john: I agree with all points, except the nobody cared portion regarding the Titan’s initial issues. Since I frequent many sites and read many magz, there was plenty of coverage given to the Titans problems, most notably the rear end failures. I know a few people and have read many forum posts by former Titan owners, which have been scared away from Nissan as a whole due to their many issues. Nissan has made many improvements upon the Titan design and is actually my 2nd favorite truck on the market and own 2 Nissans currently. Now I think Nissan received nearly as much attention for 1st & 2nd model year Titan issues as Toyota has received with the Tundra. Of course Toyota will get plenty of attention due to the simple fact they are #1 or #2 in sells and their quality control has slipped some since the 70’s, 80’s and early 90’s. I’m not too concerned with the quality issues, as this will be fixed. I’m more about the way Toyota handles these problems and how they treat their customers. This has been a learning experience and Toyota will get it corrected. No matter what make/model, the first year or two of a brand new or completely redesigned model is going to have its growing pains.
I know several people that own the new tundra. I drive a 06 and cant wait to get a new one. I have owned all makes of trucks in 1/2 3/4 and 1 ton’s. Fact of the matter is when the bed is empty your going to have a wishy-washy rear end. Go drive on a wash board dirt road for the real test! Toyota will step up and fix things that are problems. Now some of your nit picky problems? “NO” they will not. If you want a car like ride, BUY A CAR! We used ny buddys new tundra to go hunting this year, LOADED down and pulling a camper. It was amazing for a 1/2 ton truck. We later used it in some 4×4 situations and the truck was GREAT!!!!!! I would not consider myself as a Toyota only guy. But was trully impressed with what that truck can do. Keep up the good work Toyota. My next truck will be a Tundra.
So here is th scoop on the ride quality
If you check my previous posts you will see that I complained about the rough ride.
I was really considering seriously getting rid of my Tundra because I though I did not ride smooth enough compared to other trucks.
So I thought I would try out some other trucks. I test drove a Ford F350(retail cost 79,000) and F250 and here is what I found.
After the test drives I realized that the Toyota Tundra was by far the best truck on the market, it drove and handled considerably better in addition the engine power was of the scale.
I can honestly tell you that after driving the Fords, the problems I complained about seem pretty minor to me now.
Don’t take my word for it, go drive some and see what you think and remember that trucks will never handle or ride like cars.
Toyota here is my apology to you.
Comparinng trucks to trucks, there is no doubt in my mind that the new Toyota Tundra is the best ruck on the market by far.
Even though I paid more then I would have buying domestic half ton, I am happy and I believe that I got more then my moneys worth
D
Daniel: Thanks for the comparison and apology to Toyota, but you didn’t compare apples to apples. An F250/350 has a much stiffer suspension and SFA (Solid Front Axle) when compared to the Toyota. These two items alone will make for a much worse ride quality than any IFS (Independent Front Suspension), like most 1/2 tons have these days.
Now had you compared the Tundra against a Silverado/Sierra 1500 or F150, you would have noticed these 1/2 tons have a slightly smoother ride and drive just as well as the Tundra. Now the engine power is only matched by the Chevy/GMC 6.0L, but it’s just sad they install a 3.42 gear ratios, which makes it fractions of a second slower than the Tundra. Had GM installed some better gears, say 3.73 or 4.10, I’d believe the Chevy/GMC would be slightly quicker.
This is based off my experience of driving all three of the above mentioned 1/2 tons. Maybe not a ton of behind the wheel time, but I have spent time as a driver and passenger in every new model on the road, with the exception of the Ram.
Not knocking the the Tundra or the Domestics, just providing an unbiased and objective perspective. You really can’t go wrong with any truck on the road today, they all have their good and bad points. All depends on what wets your whistle.
Justin I would have to agree with you
In fact I just got back from a high way trip and I do have to say it was rougher then it should have been.
especially with the cold weather I do have to say that the ride on my Tundra has gotten much worse then in the summer.
Anyway I hope Toyota comes out with a solution soon.
D
I have the 07, 5.7 Double Cab. Replaced the fuel sending unit at 2500 miles (symptom: reads 1/4 tank), Drivers mirror is loose at 5000 miles. Not the extended tow mirror but the elect. heated chrome type. No charges on either repair.
I feel the bed bounce is the light weight bed. I’ve always had toppers and will be adding one to this truck soon. I believe it will take care of it. It is not bothering me.
I AM concerned about the transmission. It does this thing where it downshifts, seemingly to assist in braking, but it seems to get confused, downshifting 2 or 3 gears causing me to lunge forward in my seat. If this occurred on ice it would be very bad. It did it towing 7k lbs the other day and it freaked out the Ltd Slip Diff causing it to alarm. I probably should have that off with that load. My dealer is looking for possible firmware updates on this shift shock issue but I don’t see anyone else talking about it so it may be my truck.
All in all, I love the truck and recommend it!!!
In manufacturing, feedback is criticle. This is not whining or bashing. This is part of the improvement process when done constructively. Make sure that your dealer puts everything in the computer when you take it in for service. It is how Toyota achieves visability into issues and covers your butt later if it escalates.
I HAVE A 2007 TOYOTA TUNDRA SR5 , MY PROBLEM IS THE TRANSMISSION, WHEN I HAVE IN DRIVE IT DROPS DOWN INTO INTO A LOWER GEAR. THE TACK TELLS ME ALL I WANT TO KNOW.DRIVING AT SPEED OF 50 MILES AN HOUR, TACK READING 3500 HUNDRED, AND AT DIFFERENT SPEEDS TACK IS WAY OVER ITS LIMIT. DEALER SAYS UNLESS THE ENGINE LIGHT GOES ON THER IS NOTHING I CAN DO FOR YOU. AND TOYOTA SAYS THER IS NOTHING I CAN DO FOR YOU UNLESS THE ENGINE LIGHT LIGHT COMES ON OR IT BREAKS { SEE IF I BUY ANOTHER TOYOTA YOU CAN BET I WONT }
Solution
# Matthew Davis Says:
December 10th, 2007 at 2:34 pm
Hello everyone. I am the owner of a 2007 Tundra double cab 4X4 with the 5.7 engine. I have noticed the bed vibration since shortly after purchasing the truck in July. I had some time on my hands the other day, so I got up under the truck to see if I could identify the sourse of the vibration. Those of you who own this truck can go and grab the rear bumper and shake it up and down vigorously and you will observe independent motions of the bed and the cab. I began to realize that the frame has a harmonic frequency with a pivot point between the engine/transmission area and the rear axle area of the frame. (Visualize a guitar string.)You can get into the bed of the truck and stand directly over the rear axle and jump up and down, and you will find that it is almost impossible to make the same vibration that you can easily achive by applying pulsating pressure to the bumper or open tailgate. I thought about the idea of attaching some sort of weight to the rear bumper area, but as I considered the idea, I realized that this would only change the frequency of the vibration, but would not dampen it. It might even make the vibration more intense in the cab. So I thought about the idea of somehow canceling out the harmonics of the frame by creating a dampening device with a slightly different harmonic frequency attached to the area of the frame behind the rear axle as close to the bumper as possible. The logic here is that if you could CAUSE the frame to vibrate from this point, then it should be possible to DAMPEN the vibration from the same point. I decided to use the spare tire for this purpose so as not to ncrease the weight of the vehicle. I lowered the spare tire a few inches from the frame, and I cut out two peices of high density rubber foam and placed them in between the tire and the part of the frame that the tire is pressed against. I then retightened the tire to where the foam was snug between the tire and the frame. (The tire should be tight enough that it does not rattle.) This setup allowed the tire to “jiggle” slightly up and down, but at a frequency slightly higher than that of the frame harmonic. This effectively canceled out the frame harmonic and made for an amazingly smoother ride over rough, or washboard surfaces. It is also much more difficult to “shake” the truck from the tailgate area. Likely, when Toyota comes up with some sort of fix for this problem, it will use this, or a similar principle. In the meantime, the ride quality of my truck is much better. You can rest assured, that the springs are not too stiff, the shocks are not defective, the frame is not weak,and the tires do not cause this as long as they are properly balanced, and not out of round. (An out of balance or defective tire could easily magnify the problem, especially at the speed when the RPM’s of the tire match the frequency of the frame harmonic) Hopefully some of you will find this information helpful.
NEW PROBLEM!!! I have a 2007 5.7 double cab. I was having a problem when i accelerate the truck is surging and bucking. Almost like it cant find a gear. I brought it to the dealer and they ordered a new computer for it from Japan that took almost a month to get. They installed it today and its still doing the same thing. But not as bad though. This apparently is not the first case. At this point the dealer has no clue what to tell me. They waiting on toyota techs to figure it out. Anyone else having this problem. It only happens during hard acceleration. This may end up being a recall. I am so dissappointed with this truck so far!! I am ready to trade it in. I am sorry i got rid of my 2004 tundra for this one.
I find it interesting that Jose, who stated that those posting problems for us owners to review were WINERS, is now in a position of seeming like a winer himself about his list of problems.
It is also annoying to have a doubting cheerleader like Justin around. Thought the post from Nachy Valledor would shut you up, but you obviously have some pleasure from your blog hopping. You don’t own the truck, and your post quota has been exceeded here.
I have had small annoying issues in $100k cars and appreciate the time dedicated members of this site take to share the issues they have. I have an ‘07 5.7 Crewmax LTD and share in the reluctance to have others in my new truck due to the shake on the highway at 65mph. My truck also has trouble finding gears, seems like it is between 1st and 2nd when in 4wd. Thanks for the posts since this gives checks and balances to the service departments.
Tundra Owner: Thanks for the post, just a little FYI.
You state I’m a doubting cheerleader, but if you have read all my posts, through the various different threads, you’d notice I give the Tundra credit where due, but don’t buy into the fact the Tundra is the best 1/2 ton on the road simply due to the 5.7L’s 381hp & 0-60 time. Chevy and Dodge have claimed the most HP or fastest 0-60 for years prior, but this never proved they were the best trucks on the road. I will point out the facts, just like I do with other makes, such as the lack of high end HP for Ford, ground clearance for GM models, rear end failures for the Titan and the overall fit & finish of Rams for just a few. Each make has their goods and bads, but one problem nor one good point make one truck better than the other. It’s all about the entire truck, not just one item.
NV had his/her valid points, which I don’t agree or disagree with all. Some are very valid, some may be slightly off the mark. NV’s had his/her issues with domestic products, which I do understand. I’ve had a ‘99 domestic SUV that was a money pit, but have also had a ‘93 japanese import car that was a money pit as well. So it’s hit or miss some times on the make/model and the actual reliability. Every make has it’s lemons and it’s flawless vehicles, which I think we’ve all been on both sides of that road before.
Personally, I buy what I like, is reliable and has a proven track record. This leads to why in almost every thread I’ve posted in, states I will never purchase a 1st and usually a 2nd model year, since it lacks the track record and reliability.
Now the release of every 1st year model has it’s issues, this you can’t deny. We’ll just have to see how Toyota improves upon these 1st year results. Now in ‘2009, I may just look at the Tundra, being it will be 3 years into this model. Ford & Dodge will be releasing new 1/2 tons mid to late ‘08, so depending I might wait to judge all 1/2 tons again until late ‘09 or ‘10.
I’ve driven every ‘07 1/2 ton on the market, which each has some very valid reasons to be #1, but also many issues that bring it back to the pack. Sure I’d love some more behind the wheel time of them all, but after multiple drives and rides in each, I have a good idea on how each stack up against one another.
Thanks for you opinion and for trying to call me out, but heck, every person with blinders on from every forum I’ve posted on, has tried to. I don’t get mad, I could care less. Just prefer people go into their buying experience with an open mind. Don’t go buy an F150 cause it’s the #1 selling vehicle in N.A. for 30+ years, don’t go buy a Silverado because it offers the most car like ride and best MPG (5.3L V8), don’t go by the Tundra because of Toyota’s famed reliability, you could come out finding you purchased the wrong truck for what you were intending to use it for. This is my point, cars are cars, they are people movers. Trucks have many more configurations and applications, making it much more difficult to find the right truck for what you want/need it for. This is the problem with all the former car drivers that are now buying trucks, they don’t know all aspects of a truck and it’s capabilities. Most are simply buying them for transportation, not for their intended purpose. So most trucks on the road anymore won’t see a trailer behind them, any kind of load other than say a set of ski’s or groceries in the bed.
My 07 Tundra has a 26.4 gallon tank, but when the gauge and the DTE calculator says I am at empty, I can still only put 19.5 gallons in it. Toyota City in Brooklynn Park MN says there is nothing wrong with this, but I find that hard to believe. Can anyone tell me if this is normal?
Mike — check out this post:
http://www.tundraheadquarters......questions/
We addressed that exact question just a couple of months ago.
Mike,
I guess you can say that is the only problem I have…Like you The most I ever put in my Crewcab was 21.3 gallons…This after I ran 10 miles on empty according to the gauge that states how many miles you have left… Knowing this to me is a safety net when traveling….
You people complaining about the Toyota need to stop and suck it up. Do you want Toyota to keep making trucks? Then stop! The tailgate is YOUR problem – you need to distribute your load properly when loading your truck. You aren’t supposed to walk on it like some redneck Ford owner. If you’re going to load heavy stuff like hay in it, take it off like Toyota recommends!
The camshaft issue is old news. If you haven’t had your motor replaced yet, then do it! You’ll get something nice like a Camry to drive around – big deal.
Vibration? Get a clue, all trucks vibrate. If yours has the torque converter problem, you’ll get a recall notice in the mail if not already. This only affects 10% of the Tundras out there. Again, you’ll get a nice loaner.
Bed bounce? Please. Since when has bed bounce in a truck been an issue? It’s a truck for god’s sake. Some of you need to grow up and stop being girly men.
Painted dashboard? Who cares if the dashboard is painted plastic? It’s easier to repaint that way – if you scuff it up, just have a can of spray paint handy.
As for the rest of the inane comments on this flawless truck, please, just get a life.
Just thought I’d check in. My 2007 5.7L Crewmax LTD 4X4 is still going strong at 18,000 miles no concerns or failed parts. My fleet now is 5 5.7L Tundras strong and they too are rolling along with no issues. Maybe I’m just lucky with my Tundras unfortunately my luck doesn’t run with me into the casinos who knows maybe it just the truck. By the way from reading the comments above I’m a 43 year old male full of what I like to call testundrarone (testosterone get it!). Toyota Still Moving me Forward and out of the Service Department times 6. I don’t miss Ford at all but the Ford Service Department definitely misses me and my wallet………..
“You people complaining about the Toyota need to stop and suck it up. Do you want Toyota to keep making trucks? Then stop! The tailgate is YOUR problem – you need to distribute your load properly when loading your truck. You aren’t supposed to walk on it like some redneck Ford owner. If you’re going to load heavy stuff like hay in it, take it off like Toyota recommends!
The camshaft issue is old news. If you haven’t had your motor replaced yet, then do it! You’ll get something nice like a Camry to drive around – big deal.
Vibration? Get a clue, all trucks vibrate. If yours has the torque converter problem, you’ll get a recall notice in the mail if not already. This only affects 10% of the Tundras out there. Again, you’ll get a nice loaner.
Bed bounce? Please. Since when has bed bounce in a truck been an issue? It’s a truck for god’s sake. Some of you need to grow up and stop being girly men.
Painted dashboard? Who cares if the dashboard is painted plastic? It’s easier to repaint that way – if you scuff it up, just have a can of spray paint handy.
As for the rest of the inane comments on this flawless truck, please, just get a life.”
Flawless Truck. Now that’s the funniest thing I’ve heard in a long tome.
You’re clueless. You have no idea what you’re talking about if you think anyone should have to take their tailgate off to load anything into a truck.
What dream world are you from?
Sorry but all trucks do not vibrate. Do you even own a truck? Have you ever owned a truck? I’ve had three Fords and three Toyota’s and not one of them vibrated.
This Tundra bounces like a pogo stick at times and Toyota is actively trying to come up with a fix for it. They have recieved many complaints already regarding the bed bounce.
Sorry but it’s a real issue regardless of whatever you say.
This new Tundra has so many faults and quality issues it’s disgusting.
Even Toyota has come out and said they are ashamed of this new Tundra and rightfully so they should be.
You can stick your head in the sand and continue to drink the koolaid but everyone knows this truck has some real issues.
We need Toyota to step up to the plate and redesign this truck so it will be like previous Toyota trucks from the past.
Toyota’s quality and dependability has taken a major blow with this new Truck.
Hopefully they can get the bugs worked out soon.
I have an 07 Tundra reg cab 5.7 4X4 that I purchased in Aug I now have 6300 miles on it. The only problem I have had was a vibration at about 2000 miles. I took the truck to the dealer and they balanced the tires and aligned it. This fixed the problem. I also would like to add that the customer service was great.
I am not sure what to say about the rest of the issues that I have read on this blog. I guess I’m to busy enjoying and driving my truck than complaining about it. If I wanted a vehicle to ride smooth and drive likes a car I would have bought a car. Instead I purchased a truck.
I feel the most over exaggerated complaint is the bed bounce. Once again, you own a truck. The solution is…HAUL SOMETHING!!! And while you’re at it use the four wheel drive. It sounds like some, not all of these people should have bought a Hummer so you can ride around and look pretty.
Vibration
Im starting to think the problem may be a combination of a number of things
I recently put a new set of tires on my crewmax
Bf Goodrich 285/65/r20
the vehicle rides much better vibration almost gone entirely
also did the high density foam over the spare tire
D
Hay Mike
you sound like an idiot, maybe you should have some koolaid
Justin, Mike,
For Justin it’s not only the 1st and 2nd year a vehicle has all the bugs in it. The 06 Silverado I had was out 3 years and came out with a defective headliner and tail light. Known fact. Hence all GM owners carry duct tape to hold up items mentioned. Mike the only thing I agree with you about Toyota is that the guages are like the Ford’s, what is the temp guage set at? GM does have guages with the numbers not C and H. I have over 13,000 and had the truck 6 months. Traveled many miles very comfortable. If you don’t like the set up in the way the vehicle looks on the inside you’re not going to buy it anyway…You don’t need to tell me if the tailgate or the bed bounce is a serious problem. I have yet to have either. Also I don’t travel with my tailgate down unless it’s under a load. Mythbusters shown that the tailgate down makes you gas mileage go down. Hard top, soft top didn’t improve or you lost mpg. Only the airgate improved gas mileage. So why drive with it down. Personally I had a 03 F-150 with its computer problems and Ford blaming it on Lowjack. Which lowjack was sold in their aftermarket products. Gas mileage was only 16 on the hwy and 16 in the city. The 06 Silverado rode very good also, but lacked the power. This is not to mention 2 weeks after purchasing headliner was down on all doors. I found this on 2 out of 4 trucks at 2 other dealership lots for sale as new. Justin can explain that one. Besides guages and mirror action that was all GM had going for it. I guess I’m one of the very few that got a truck that was flawless in the last 6 months. I’m past being happy. An 03 F-150 in the shop 24x in 3 years is way too much for me, an 06 GM in the shop 16x in 15 months is way too much. By the way Justin When I traded the GM in I left the roll of duct tape for the future owner of the troubled truck. I have to say if I thought of what Lisa did I think that would helped me alot.
MY 07′TUNDRA CREWMAX IS ONLY GETTING 13.4MPG ALREADY HAVE OVER 8,000 MILES ON IT. IF I DRIVE A LOT ON THE FREEWAY THE BEST I GET IS 13.8MPG, BUT I DRIVE IN THE CITY MOST OF THE TIME. MY FRIEND JUST BOUGHT A TRUCK LIKE MINE BUT AN SR5 AND HE IS GETTING OVER 17MPG AND 19MPG ON THE FREEWAY WHAT GIVES IS THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH MINE I THOUGHT THEY WERE ADVERTISED AT 16 AND 20MPG. KEEP IN MIND I DRIVE NORMAL NO HARD ACCELERATIONS OR NOTHING LIKE THAT IS THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH MY TRUCK?
MY 07?TUNDRA CREWMAX IS ONLY GETTING 13.4MPG ALREADY HAVE OVER 8,000 MILES ON IT. IF I DRIVE A LOT ON THE FREEWAY THE BEST I GET IS 13.8MPG, BUT I DRIVE IN THE CITY MOST OF THE TIME. MY FRIEND JUST BOUGHT A TRUCK LIKE MINE BUT AN SR5 AND HE IS GETTING OVER 17MPG AND 19MPG ON THE FREEWAY WHAT GIVES IS THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH MINE I THOUGHT THEY WERE ADVERTISED AT 16 AND 20MPG. KEEP IN MIND I DRIVE NORMAL NO HARD ACCELERATIONS OR NOTHING LIKE THAT IS THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH MY TRUCK?
That’s about what I get in town. I have a 4X4. Is your truck 4 wheel drive? I have a friend that has a 2 wheel drive and he gets about 2-3 MPGs better. In town I get about 13-15 and on the highway I get about 17-19. I have noticed that the fuel mileage is very dependant on how far down you push on the gas pedal. I am not very upset with my fuel mileage because I know I have a bunch of ponies to feed. I suggest you take your truck on a road trip and burn a full tank of gas on the interstate and then compare with other trucks. It’s really hard to gauge fuel mileage when there are so many variables involved. Driving mostly on highways eliminates most of the variables and would give you a better set of numbers to compare.
Owner, John,
I have a Crewmax Limited and I put in an AFE cold air breather which changed my mpg from 17-18 to 19.5 mpg. I have 13,000 on the 5.7. When I do 55 – 60 is where I get my best mpg. I travel at least 25 miles by interstate one way. I also have a soft top on the bed and mostly drive with all four windows and back window down, and the sunroof opened.
Beside my seatbelt tension being way to tight, my 07 Ltd Dblcab 5.7 4×4 is awesome.
I’ve had none the problems others have complained about on this board. This truck beats the pants off the domestics.
My dealer has acknowledged some problems exist with the Tundra, yet only with a fraction of a percent of Tundra’s sold.
If this board is any indication, there are 191 posts as of this writing, yet most posters have posted multiple times, meaning only 80 or so owners have posted issues. Not bad at all for a truck with over 100,000 sold and on the road.
Mike Y,
I agree with you…Enough said…
80 complaints out of 191 posts is a pretty big percentage.(41%)If this is a % of how many of these Tundra’s have problems Toyota is in a world of trouble.
You can rest assured that maybe only 1/2% of all Tundra owners even know about this site.
To complaint 184 / Mike
I guess I am a redneck. I have stood on tailgates all my life (substantial number of years) and never had one crater on me. Every extended load I have ever carried the tailgate was down. Toyota made a mistake and they will hopefully correct it with newer models. Yes, I own a 2007 Tundra and I checked the tailgate after hearing of the complaints. It does appear to be a little flimsy.
GT
Sorry Mike,
The earlier comment was meant for whoever wrote the garbage about tailgates and other issues.
GT
Mike S,
Like you said 1/2 equals 50,000 know of this site an 80 out of 50,000 doesn’t equate to the figure you’re wishing for…
I’ve got a 2006 Tundra Crewmax, 4×4, limited, TRD. After reading the post, I guess either I’m lucky or it just hasn’t happened to me yet. I’ve got about 5500 miles, and no vibration or bed hop.
So far, I’m happy with the truck. I’m off road almost every weekend–hunting in the winter, on the beach in the summer. Performance is much better than my previous Chevy Z-71. Towing my 8000 lbs boat is great–brakes are much better than Ford/Chevy.
I have noticed these issues/problems:
A/C vents don’t stay in a fixed position.
Inner tailgate is way too thin.
Paint scratches too easily. I’m careful when washing my cars/trucks, but my Tundra already has “spider-webs” in the paint.
Gauge lighting is shit in bright sun.
I wish the “auto” tilt steering wheel feature could be reprogrammed to tilt up and in with the engine off, but key left in ignition. I live in the country and leave the keys in the ignition, but the tilt stays in the down position until you pull the keys out.
Not bad problems, I’m still pleased I made the decision to go Toyota.
Shelton? Toyota did not make a 06 Crew max? That Name is for 07’s and newer. I would like to know from the readers, How does the truck Tow? How is the 4X4 working. Do you guys like all of the Safety feature’s (that are not available on the BIG 3) What does the VVT-I thing do? And has anyone heard of the Crew Max coming out w/ a 6.5″ Bed in 09?
Oh by the way, MERRY CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR.
Kodman…Sorry. I meant 2007, not 2006–typo.
The truck tows great. I pull about 9500 lbs with boat and trailer. While towing, off the line acceleration and braking are impressive compared to my previous trucks (chevy silverado and suburban). Very nice in heavy traffic
I use the 4×4 every weekend and the biggest difference I see vs. my silverado and suburban is the power, especially in mud and sand.
Another thing I’m happy with is the comfort in the backseat. You can actually enjoy a long trip in this truck. But in the crewmax, you sacrifice the bed length. I usually only haul fishing or hunting items, so I really don’t have a need for a long bed. However, there are times when I wish the bed was longer, hauling lawn tractors, 4 wheelers, fire wood, etc…
I think power is the overall biggest difference I’ve noticed.
Safety features?? I guess they’ll be nice if I crash!?! I have to turn the “rollover” system off when I go 4 wheeling in the mountains so the side airbags don’t go off–so recommends the owners manual. Is that the VVT-I?
I had planned on buying another Chevy, but once I drove the Toyota, bought it immediately. I take care of the truck, but I’m pretty rough on it. I tow and 4×4 a a lot– I hope the problems others are having don’t creep up on me.
Merry Christmas!
“Like you said 1/2 equals 50,000 know of this site an 80 out of 50,000 doesn’t equate to the figure you’re wishing for…”
Huh? 1/2 of a % of all Tundra owners would be 885 owners. I’m not sure what you’re getting at here.
Are you trying to say that 50,000 Tundra owners know of this site and only 80 have complained about the bed bounce?
I think you’re way off base.
Mike S,
You stated about half Tundra owners know about this site. As of the end of November 177,000 Tundra trucks sold. 50,000 is less than half. 80 out of that 50,000 isn’t a high %. Now if these 80 will go to NHTSB site and list this complaint we will get somewhere. NHTSB will investigate the safety of the bed bounce and force Toyota into a recall. I currently don’t have this problem but I still check out that site along with ODI to see if they are investigating the bed bounce and tailgate issues… This site is good for both information and misinformation. Mike what gets me being a first time Toyota owner is that the amount of people on this site who don’t own a Tundra putting in their views.. Whether true facts or not it comes down to this they don’t own a Tundra… I owned the other 2 brands and had terrible times with them. As far as I’m concerned they’re in the past and I’m moving on. Actually I stumbled onto this site looking for other Tundra owners who like to meet and show off the trucks and do different things, like the camaro club which I used to be in until I sold mine because of GM.
I have owned my 07 CrewMax 4X4 Limited for 2 months, 2K miles with no problems whatsoever. Very happy with my purchase.
Mickey,
I said 1/2 of 1%. I never said 1/2 of all Tundra owners. Look at my math. Why does it bother you that I comment without actually owning a Tundra? I want one but I’m not buying into the current build so I’m going to wait.
You should be happy that us on the fence buyers are demanding that Toyota steps up to the plate and builds the Tundra like they built vehicles in the past.
Believe me this new rushed to market truck with the faulty drivetrain and all it’s other issues is nothing like the Toyota vehicles of the past.
I really like the truck, but after hearing about some of the first year woes, I may wait for an 09. plus I just read consumer report’s verdict of the 07 4wd tundra – requires more repairs than average and is not recommended. ironically the 2wd version recieved top marks. but who wants a 2wd truck anyway?
Mike,
Understand, thanks for the clarification. I do admit Toyota didn’t have everything I liked which was on the silverado I had. Personally I really hate the letters vice numbers when it comes to guages. GM does that right. Other good factors was when I put the silverado in reverse the computer would set the mirrors to curb site. Very useful when parking next to a curb. That I thought was a personnal touch from GM. Toyota doesn’t offer that. But the problems from GM and Ford pushed me away from them. I was never a Dodge or Nissan fan and Honda doesn’t build a truck. So I was left checking out Toyota and I needed a truck right away. I finally can say with this one I’ve been fortunate with no problems @ 14,000 miles. I hope those who have the issue to go to NHTSB and complain. You can complain to Toyota or any manufacturer and they can listen and listen without any remorse and push off doing a recall as I was done with the headlliner issue and GM. They admit it’s a defect but they aren’t obligated to do that recall. The National Highway Transportation Safety Board can force Toyota to do this recall. This is for Mark, Sorry you get what you want in a 4wd. I haven’t had a problem pulling my boat or anything else with a 2wd. Not to mention ever getting stuck. You can pay the gas while I’m getting 20 mpg.
I purchased an 07 tundra XSP in sept. It has 1600 miles on it and I have it in the shop for the second time in three weeks.There are two problems I’ve encountered. The first is the so called poorly designed gauges continuously fail to operate. They come and go at will. Complaint number 63 on this site describes exactly what is happening to me.Only fuel and volts read.When they do come back on several instrument lights do as well. Problem number two is THAT ANNOYING DIESEL SOUND. I traded my 2005 F350 on this tundra and I have regret. I’m considering as a public service putting a sign in the bed of my truck warning prospective buyers. If the bed can support a sandwich board sign! My dealer in panama city Florida says that there aren’t any reports of these mentioned problems and that they’d take care of it. Well that was the last time I took it in a week and a half ago,it’s back in the shop. I should inform them of this site because they assure me my truck is the only one with these unheard of problems. Thank all of you for you’re entries cause I thought I was all alone with the only lemon on the lot. Oh yeah on my paperwork it states that my gauges were fixed,it was poorly grounded or loose wiring. The took a cluster from a new tundra on the lot and had the same failure. Number two which is the scary problem, the diesel gas hybrid engine. They said it was normal valve clearance to allow for heat expansion. Yeah my butt.That was a stall tactic til they could figure out how to recall all these knocking Gas diesel hybrid sure not to last pieces of junk! Gauges still don’t work. Toyota did say if they couldn’t fix it they’d trade me for another vehicle. Wow! Other than that it is a nice truck !
Mike
Sorry to hear about your problems with your truck. I have the 07 Crewmax Limited and haven’t had a problem here in Jax, Florida. Since you are in Florida you have to go into the shop the 3rd time and then file with the BBB for the Lemon Law. They will side with the automaker to give them the 4th and final try. I went through this with an 06 Silverado with a headliner issue. Now once you go through Arbitration with Toyota and they give Toyota one more try you have 30 days for the problem to happen again for the BBB to handle it or they will close the case and you will have to go through the state DA. I wish you luck if you go that way. At least from what you say Toyota’s willing to replace your truck with another. GM and Ford told me to take a hike.
I had troubles with my NEW o7 Tundra…I posted my experience here at comment #160. I will repost here as well as tell ALL 2007 TUNDRA owners that Toyota posted on their Yahoo financial website that if “ANY” 2007 Tundra truck owner be dissatisfied they would BY IT BACK! I don’t know how true this is…but it was posted on Dec 7th. That was within a few days after we were upgraded UP TO A 2008 MODEL. I was very Dissapointed how that TOYOTA did NOT want to make things right…but the DEALER did! I took Action! The more people take action and take a firm stand Toyota will either be FORCED to do a recall and make it right and Stand behind their trucks! Here is my earlier post…
Okay I had not read anything about the “Vibration” in the transmission. Drive home noticed a vibration as if we were going over strips in the road. Service Dept had no idea of what it could be. I found online other issues similar. Toyota “IS AWARE” of this issue as being the “Torque Converter” They replaced it but it still had transmission issues, it pulled to the right pretty bad and the stereo was “Possed”! Toyota showed little to NO empathy for my Frustration with buying a $34K vechicle “CASH” just to have it needing serviced 2 in less than the first 20 days of buying it! Well I being Frustrated & Determined to get someones attention…I took White & Yellow paint and wrote all over my windows how I was an “UHAPPY CUSTOMER of Mariana Toyota…New Truck Owner”! I put my phone # and my e-mail address and sent my husband to the dealer for yet “Another” service call! Oh did I get someones Attention! The Owner understood and heard my Voice and Frustration! He was NOT liking the “BAD” advertising sitting up front and center of his lot! As it turned out they took back the 2007 and put us into a 2008! This dealership Went the distance and did what it took to make this right! We can’t yet relax and are finding we are “PARONOID” that someting will go wrong with this truck too! WE are just hoping that TOYOTA learned how to resolve the issues prior to the release of the 2008! TOYOTA NEEDS TO SHOW MORE CONERN AND CARE FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS! We all work hard for our Money & we expect a “QUALITY” Purchase!
WAY TO GO MARIANA TOYOTA!
Good Luck in whatever you deceide…BUT REMEBER We all work hard for our money and we put our money and our trust into these vechicles…Don’t Give UP, Take a Firm Stand for them to make things right and to wake Toyota up!
We have now had the 2008 and drove from FL. to CA. So far So good
WE LOVE THE Tundra!
I had troubles with my NEW o7 Tundra…I posted my experience here at comment #160. Please read it you may benifit from it! As well as tell ALL 2007 TUNDRA owners that Toyota posted on their Yahoo financial website that if “ANY” 2007 Tundra truck owner be dissatisfied they would BY IT BACK! I don’t know how true this is…but it was posted on Dec 7th. That was within a few days after we were upgraded UP TO A 2008 MODEL. I was very Dissapointed how that TOYOTA did NOT want to make things right…but the DEALER did! I took Action! The more people take action and take a firm stand Toyota will either be FORCED to do a recall and make it right and Stand behind their trucks!
FYI to all. Looks like there may be problems with the front seats of the ‘07 Tundra when rear ended. Seems there have been reports and pictures posted of the seats buckling back over themselves.
I’ve got copies of the pictures if anyone would like to view them.
HEY JUSTIN I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE PICS
…And now, its the breaking driveshafts….
Jose: Can’t post pics to this site, so email me at: co303denver@yahoo.com and I’ll send them over.
Lisa,
I wish I thought of your idea when I had my problems with my 03 F-150 and 06 Silverado. Both within 2 weeks of owning them had problems. The “Buy Back program is called a “Repurchase” which a dealership gives you trade-in value or what they’re doing now is called auction value. Auction value turns out to be roughly $2,000 plus depending on vehicle less than what yo would get for Kelly Blue book or NADA for trade-in. If you owe more than that, you loose that amount and they tack on that to your new purchase. I think what you did was perfect in pushing a dealership into your bargaining table. Everyone should put these problems to the NHTSB who is a government firm to watchdog the automakers. The vibration and tailgate problems are safety issues in which they can act on. Unlike my headliner issues I had with the silverado.
07 Tundra 4×4 5.7 double cab, long bed. We have 1200 miles, same vibration noise, dealer replaced the torque converter yesterday. No noise until my husband drove it back home last night. We will be taking it back today. Will update you asap.
UPDATE: I took the tundra in yesterday to the Toyota of kingsport in kingsport tn, and they took it for a drive and told me that they thought it was a misaligned drive shaft. The said it was hard to line up exact, so they have to try to match the best they can. took it for a test drive, and no more noise. Problem solved:). They are very nice there and said, “There will be recalls, but don’t worry, Toyota will fix them.” That is the nicest that I have ever been treated in my life. I had a 2005 kia sorento, but had multiple problems with it and never got fixed. Grindstaff kia was so rude and always played deaf to the noises and problems. I love my tundra.
UPDATE: I took the tundra in yesterday to the Toyota of kingsport in kingsport tn, and they took it for a drive and told me that they thought it was a misaligned drive shaft. The said it was hard to line up exact, so they have to try to match the best they can. took it for a test drive, and no more noise. Problem solved:). They are very nice there and said, “There will be recalls, but don’t worry, Toyota will fix them.” That is the nicest that I have ever been treated in my life. I had a 2005 kia sorento, but had multiple problems with it and never got fixed. Grindstaff kia was so rude and always played deaf to the noises and problems. I love my tundra.
Mike Murpy, I have the same diesel sound. See my posts #’s 54 & 79. Can you imagine what this engine sounds like in the morning here in Massachusetts with our recent 8 degree weather? On a lighter note, I have all the neighbors fooled, thinking I have a prototype Tundra diesel hybrid.
I have had an 2007 Tundra 2wd crewmax limited,put 18,000 miles on it-did not cut it any slack-ran it hard-did not have ANY PROBLEMS-traded to 2007 TRD 4wd crewmax,have put 12,0000 miles on it.I treat this one no different than the 1st truck-you could not pay me to get a different truck. I had a 2005 f250 6.0 diesel it lived at the dealer! Very happy with my truck!
I have a 07 Tundra 4×4, 5.7L after the 1st oil change (5k)I noticed that diesel noise. I have taken it to the dealer and the claim is normal engine noise. That’s bull. I didn’t had it before, and at 12k miles it’s getting louder even though after driving it for 3-5 miles it becomes lower but the noise never goes away.Besides that anoying sound the truck is excellent.If any body had this problem resolve please let me know.
I can absolutely echo what #222 says. Initially, my Tundra with the 5.7 engine had no noises. My truck now has 5800 miles and the “diesel” and “ticking” noises just keep getting louder. My noises also diminish after driving a few miles, but they never go away.
There just is no way that I can believe that these noises are normal. And even if they are “normal”, they are very annoying and, in my opinion, should not be there in a new vehicle. It is just not good business to sell a vehicle with these noises because all it is going to do is to cause ill will and unhappy customers.
Other than the engine noises, though, the truck has a lot of wonderful qualities. However, the engine noises more than offset all the other wonderful stuff and I would not have bought my Tundra if I had been aware that the engine would be so noisy.
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Tried posting once, here we go again. Have over 2000 miles on my 07 Tundra Crewmax Limited. Not one problem yet. I have read every post here and try to find something wrong. This is my first pick up and I don’t beat my truck up however I don’t baby it either. Very happy and will continue to monitor this site for new problems others are having, realizing how lucky I am
Jim
Back again. I recently posted as 208.Toyota called me 010408 and told me that after a week of tests all they could conclude was that my computer was to blame for the problems I was having. Faulty gauges and Diesel noises. Anyway they offered a loaner til mon 010708.They have an employee driving my truck this weekend to test it out. I assume all of us have bad computers!!! Anyway we will see tomorrow. Mr Robert Lee, I sympathize with you. In panama city it has only dropped into the 40’s the days I’ve had my truck. Toyota usually has it more than me. I can only imagine what you’re truck must sound like in 8 degrees! You know the thing that chaps my butt is the dealership is towing the company line of We haven’t heard of these problems and the noises are normal! In a new KIA maybe. I also suspect that the zealots on this site are probably company employees ! There are more than a few here that seem a bit offended when you describe you’re problems.To those with tailgate problems I’m not surprised. I’m a good sized guy and when I stepped on the tailgate to get in the back of the truck to clean it I could feel it give. Thats not an issue with any of the trucks I’ve ever had. That has been many. Good luck everybody. Mike
Mike Murphy,
Please keep us informed of your computer replacement. It would be interesting to find out the reason for the diesel sound was actually pre-ignition knock caused by a defective computer and not piston slap.
Hey Mike,
I feel for you about your truck. I went through the computer game with my F-150. First they ordered a new one and replace it. Then my truck missfired at the #5 cylinder. They put the old one in and the truck ran fine but it still gave a check engine light for sensors. Then they tried replacing it with a computer from another truck on the lot. Same results missfired on #5 cylinder. They blamed Lojack and moved the Lojack computer without notifying Lojack or myself. After trying again with another computer same results then I was told two things. They stated upfront they couldn’t fix the problem. Then told me they moved Lojack to see if the computer work but didn’t. By them moving it they did 2 things, one bent the fiber optic cable causing it not to work at all. 2nd voided my warranty on Lojack. After 9x of trying to fix the truck they ordered me a new truck. I was happy about that. 10 days before the truck came in a factory rep came in to work on my truck. I was asked to bring it in. One week prior the factory rep fixed the truck and the computer problem. When the new truck arrived and I came in to trade my truck in all bets were off. They stated my truck was fixed and I won’t get a new one. We went round after round and Ford wouldn’t honor the new truck lemon law or not. This is why I got rid of the truck never again and I don’t care if Ford has the better truck or not. Customers don’t need to be treated this way. So no longer a Ford owner. So Mike if you don’t get good results on the replacement I don’t blame you to find another automaker.
Got my tundra back today with the new computer. I only drove 5 miles to my house and had no gauge failures.Robert Lee you read my mind on the pre-ignition possibility. Toyota had this to say about the noise the first time.”Checked engine noise.Found normal valve train noise caused by clearance for heat expansion” Now this time my ticket reads “checked for tapping noise during start up found normal tap due to short piston skirts.Also verified with tech assist on noise”. The faulty gauges are reportedly fixed by replacing part number 44050-0C160 brake actuator assembly(ABS module/ECU. Truck still has engine noise and I can’t believe it is healthy or “normal” as toyota would have us believe.Well I don’t know what to due other than drive it till it breaks! It sure doesn’t inspire piece of mind hearing all this noise from the engine of a truck with 1702 miles on it.
Mike Murphy,
Thanks for the update.I will keep you informed of any changes or additional information I get regarding the diesel noise in my truck.
Engine noise:
In the past 2 weeks I rented two tundra 5.7 pickups to compare the engine noise to mine. Both 2007 models.
Both trucks had the same noise like mine when I crank the engine in the morning and put it in drive. One of them had 14,560 miles and it was conisderably louder than mine. The other had 7,890 miles and it sounded pretty much like mine. I don’t like it but I have learned to live with it.
Hey Folks,
Any info on whether this diesel noise applies to the 2008 Tundra’s? I’m hoping they fixed this problem by now especially due to the new Sequoia’s being released. They’re based on the same engine. Last thing you want to hear while your kid’s sleeping in the back seat is loud engine noise.
Anyway, I’m looking at special ordering a Tundra next week. Just wondering if there’s problems with 08’s as well.
Thanks.
Mark
Any info on whether this diesel noise applies to the 2008 Tundra’s? I’m hoping they fixed this problem by now especially due to the new Sequoia’s being released. They’re based on the same engine. Last thing you want to hear while your kid’s sleeping in the back seat is loud engine noise.
Anyway, I’m looking at special ordering a Tundra next week. Just wondering if there’s problems with 08’s as well.
Thanks.
Mark
I’m looking at special ordering a Tundra next week. Just wondering if there’s problems with 08’s as well.
Thanks.
Mark
I have a 2007 tundra crewmas 5.7. my problems were the torque converter, steering wheel pulled to the right, right front passenger door speaker was loose and a wind noise came in thru that door..i purchased the truck 3 hours away from where I live because my local dealer didn’t have what I was looking for. So I purchased the truck somewhere else, when the problems came up I took it to my local dealer so they could help me out, when I told them about the torque the service manager looked at me like I was dumb and he told me not to read anything on the internet, he said my problem was my tires, but then a few minutes later he got a call from Toyota manager and told him it was my torque which made him look stupid, he told me he would get back with me as soon as Toyota released a bulletin so that I could bring the truck in so that they could fix it, but he thank me for showing him the problem that way he would know how to help “my customers” from what he said. So that gave me the hint that he did not want to help me since I did not purchase the truck there. I gave him a couple of weeks but till this day I haven’t heard back from him. I emailed the dealer in Grapevine Texas where I purchased the truck and explained the problems I had, the same day the service assistant manager gave a call and told me that the bulleting for the torque had been out for a couple of weeks and that he would go ahead and order me one and all I had to do was let them know when I could drop off the truck and they were going to get me a rent a truck for me. The next day the service manager called me to let me know that the part was in and to set up an appointment, I did and a couple days later I dropped off the truck and they kept it for 4 days for all the different things they had to fix. When I picked it up as soon as I drove off the dealer I could tell the diffrence with the new torque, and they took care of my problems. I’ve had it for a month now and now problems so far, this is a good truck and the dealer in Grapevine Texas took care of me.
Luis,
I’m happy for you. had a similar problem with my 06 Silverado and ABS system. The rear end would vibrate hard every time I put on the brakes. Took it to the dealership I bought it at 40 miles away and they charged me $100 for an adjustment. Two weeks later I couldn’t take the vibration no longer I took it to a dealership 5 miles away and they charged me $200 for turning the brake rotors and told me that I would have to go back to the original dealership for the money I paid them to fix the problem and was told more than likely I wouldn’t get anything but grief. Right he was. Three weeks later vibration showed it’s ugly head again and I decided to loose $7000 and trade the problem in for a Tundra. It’s hard to find as I told my original dealership competent mechanics here. I’m glad Gravevine helped you.
mickey pitre works for toyota. Gets paid buy Toyota.
Hacker,
Glad you are so knowledgeable. I never worked for Toyota and This 07 happens to be my first along with my wife’s Prius. In fact Hacker I went through GM school in 1976 and worked at Chevy dealers through 77 in the Trim shop. As you read my posts you see I was a die hard fan of GM till I was let down very badly by the automaker. You like some of the other people on this site will have to accept that Ford and GM fell to Toyota. Nascar has seen it in the truck series and very soon with Joe Gibbs the cars will be the same. I will take a picture of my tonneau cover on the back of my Crewmax so you can see what I mean. It has “THE NEW (TOYOTA SYMBOL) HEARTBEAT OF AMERICA”. I’m glad to display it. The best truck I owned to date was the cheapest. A 98 Chevy 3rd door Silverado. In the shop twice. First at 800 miles to replace the fan motor on the A/C. Next was the A/C Compressor at 98,585 miles. This truck would get 22 mpg @ 80 with the A/c on. If it wasn’t totaled in 2003 I would still have it. The next 2 trucks don’t compare to it. Now this Tundra has been performing greatly. At 15,000 just this last issue of the mirror. The money paid for this Toyota paid for 2 of those 98 chevy’s and I expect twice as much out of this truck. I tell you Toyota won’t stay on top if they don’t deal with these issues. Customers will abandon them. If that’s a company man Hacker I’m sorry for you. Hate to disappoint you but I’m a 21 year retired Navy man.
Well I made a comment on #235, but I’ve noticed some problems with the truck, I was happy cause I thought I didn’t have any more problems with the truck but I was wrong, I had the torque converter replaced which was giving me ther rumble strip feel when driving between 35-40 now I get the transmission shifting the gear hard and it doesn’t sound or feel normal, but it doesn’t do it all the time. The other issue when driving slow down a hill the transmission will shift the gear to low to the point you can fell the pull from the it shifting to low and the engine running louder. I’ve email my service guy this morning waiting from him to reply about it. But has anyone else heard anything like this or have this issue before and had it fixed, let us know. But other then that the truck is great since I travel a lot..but let me know thanks..
Has anyone heard about the ticking sound, I’ve been told to put a diffrent type of oil and it will make it go away, has anyone heard anything or have the same issue.?
Luis wrote, “The other issue when driving slow down a hill the transmission will shift the gear to low to the point you can fell the pull from the it shifting to low and the engine running louder.” Normal operation of the grade logic, and one of my favorite features. Honda has had this for years. Toyota is finally catching up and has this on the Tundra and 08 Highlander.
I spoke of this early.. or maybe in another blog but I agree that it down shifts TOO far causing me to lunge forward in my seat. If it does this downshift on ice someone will be in trouble.
Also, it did it to me while towing approx 6k lbs (tow/haul on). With the added weight behind the truck, alarms litterally went off. beeping noises, horible grind. I think it was the limited slip dif freaking out but it scared the hell out of me as I was going downhill curving to the left into a low water crossing with 6k behind me pushing. Trailer has brakes btw.
I saw on another sight that said if you drive with the shifter in the S position instead of D it will not do the auto down shift. I have not tried that yet.
Love the truck! Thanks for the bigger engine Toyota!
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Yea mickey GM school in 76 toyota school in 96, right!
Sorry Luvme,
96 I was stationed aboard USS Theodore Roosevelt CVN-71 and 6 months of those overseas.
I have a 07 tundra double cab 4×4 5.7L and experience a knocking or clunking sound when I go over a speed bump at low speeds. Thought maybe the spare tire was loose but it seems solid. Has anyone heard these noises? Thanks
Hello everyone. I’m just checking back in to let anyone with gauge malfunctions know that a new computer did not help! It also did nothing for the engine noise.I still have a tapping motor and yesterday I was brave enough to help a friend move back from Jacksonville here to Panama city. I was about forty miles out of town just getting on I-10 and the gauges died again.Earlier I said that the fuel and volts still worked. I was wrong. It seemed that the fuel gauge was reading each time the rest failed but that was on short trips around town. I realized at 100 miles or so that I was getting really good mileage,in fact the gauge hadn’t moved at all! I left my house at 6am and was at 1/4 tank and was going to fuel up when I stopped for breakfast. When I realized I had gone so far I stopped and turned the truck off and restarted it. This sometimes gets the gauges working again. I was on dead empty! So the fuel gauge hasn’t been working either.I called Toyota while on road and told them what was going on and they said the service manager would be there shortly and would call me to discuss the matter with me.Four hours later I called back and the service secretary put me off and asked if I could just bring it in on Mon. I guess he didn’t have the desire to hear about the piece of crap that they haven’t been able to fix after two previous attempts. After my trip the odometer now reads 2260 miles. Thats not accurate either. That also doesn’t work.I’m going back tomorrow at 3pm for a scheduled visit with the service manager in an attempt to resolve this. I am going to file lemon law as soon as get it back and it craps again. I will let them know that when I get there.I hope they’ll just find me another truck because I don’t have faith that this one is ever going to be fixed!`
Toyota Tundra. What is in a name? Only the reputation it carries from the people who own it! Toyota wake up and fix my F—ing piece of s– or give my money back. Better yet, just give back the 38,000 you scammed out of me with false advertisement. The biggest and baddest P.O.S. out there . Going back for the third visit tomorrow with the same old problems! Got to love the factory trained techs that work at my dealership!
Here in North Dakota we have lots of icy roads all winter long. My 2007 Crewmax LTD 4WD was great in the summer but when it started snowing, sleeting, etc I am forced to keep the pickup in 4WD due to the corny Limited Slip Differential. Try accelerating on ice and the brakes chatter, the engine power is reduced and nothing moves. Applying the LSD button allows the engine to run at full power but the differential still works poorly. It counts on the brakes to control wheel slipage which is fine under normal traction conditions. But on ice and snow I would rather have both rear tires pulling for me.
I am wondering if anyone knows of a true limited slip differntial available for the 2007 5.7 Tundra. Also if it only had full-time or auto 4WD like GM I would be happy. Any thoughts of putting the new Sequia transfer case in the Tundra?
My Tundra has over 12,000 miles and no problems except minor bed bounce. Cold engine noise is very similar to my brother-in-law’s Hemi MegaCab. Has anyone tried using a heavier oil? Spec calls for a very light oil. That might reduce the chatter.
I too had tailgate latch problems but it was due to my trying to seal the tailgate from dust. I have a bed cover and would like to keep the dust out of the box. Very hard to do as I have discovered. In the process I installed a weatherstripping that was too thick. This caused the latch to be very tight. When “forcing” the latch open the little plastic clips camme off. I needed to remove the access door to replace the little plastic clips. I have since wire-tied the plastic clips so they will not pop off as easily.
The only problem with hauling while the tailgate was open was when my son borrowed the big Tundra to haul some plywood. He said his “foot slipped” on the accelerator and the plywood fell onto the highway. Thankfully no one ran into the plywood. Anyone believe the “foot slipped” excuss?
I read in another blog here that if you put 2w 30 oil in the engine it will make the ticking sound go away a lot. I haven’t tried it on mine but what do you guys think?
Luis,
20w30 oil doesn’t make a difference. My dealer changed the oil at 3000 miles and replaced the factory oil with 20w30 and the engine still sounds like a diesel until it warms up. Toyota should send a memo to the dealers advising them that heavier engine oil will not lengthen the piston skirts
Hello again. I had an interesting phone call today from someone who I promised to keep off the record.I will say that I got lots of attention at my dealership when I mentioned lemon-law. This person said”The biggest mistake Toyota had made with the release of the Tundra was not being forthcoming about the noise in our engines” He explained that Toyota was well aware of the condition when they developed the 5.7 and that the reason you don’t hear it at first is because of the teflon type coating that they put on the pistons and other internal parts as a break-in lube which coincidentally(dampens sound)which someone thought might be a marketing benefit. He said it was a temporary coating designed to wear off as the parts break-in.The noise has been there throughout the development of the 5.7. He also stood behind this as one of the finest engines they have ever built but the noise was byproduct of they camshaft tensioners and wasn’t by any means a mechanical failure.As for my gauge problems they have admitted that they are well aware of this problem to and that their mistake with mine was not replacing the gauge cluster with the new computer as the cluster may be causing the voltage spike that is eating my computers. I was told at my dealership that if they didn’t fix it this time that they’d file lemon law for me! For now I have a nice Highlander as a loaner. Nice and small but good on gas.
Murphy,
It’s amazing how you mention Lemon law and they see the light, at least a little in both of my situations with Ford and GM. I went through arbitration against GM who never showed and only sent a letter “ADMITTING the DEFECT” but their great warranty would fix this. They wanted a final attempt to fix. This was after 6x already. Arbitrator sided with GM. Imagine that. But they gave me an option of “Repurchase or Replacement” if the attempt failed. Well another 2 more at 8x replacing waitng for new truck when I was told by the General Manager the top dawg at the dealership by email GM won’t replace a truck if it isn’t safety related like mechanically broke. Headliners don’t fall in this. The only step you can take to force anything was with the state DA. This was from lawyers who said I maybe lucky to get $1,500 if that much. Ford ordered me a new truck and 3 days before it arrived A factory rep wanted to try to fix it. Well he did and 3 days later I was told to take a hike no new truck. This was 10x to fix the computer. Replace computer truck misfired #5 cylinder. Original computer truck ran fine but check engine light kept coming on for emission in the 400 code. It seems you can’t win. Good luck and I hope you can get this settled.
I got my 07 tundra crew max limited 5.7liter 4×4 in december.Since then I have put 2300 miles on it. I am now getting 19 miles per gal. I do better if I keep under 55, up to 23 mpg. very pleased with overall preformance. I drove it from N.J. to Florida towing a boat trailor and did notice that in North Carolina for about 20 miles a bed bounce problem. The road was a worn strech of concrete on interstate 95. When the road surface changed the problem went away. I have not had any reoccurance since then. I was very concerned about this issue before I bought my tundra, mainly because of this site. I am glad I bought my truck…..Its the best one I have ever owned. I can’t help but wonder why so many people complain about so much. Did they never have any problems with domestic trucks. I find the tundra to be far superior to its competitors. I hope this note encourages others to look at Tundras seriously like I did……
My tundra is still doing ok since the torque converter was replaced. Speaking of Lemon Law, I have a suit in against KIA, and have been waiting almost a year to settle, Kia claims they have done nothing wrong and do not owe me anything. The lawyer said that Toyota is the easiest to deal with and they want to take care of the customer, and they try to make things right. If you are having problems, the best advice I can give is to write down every thing and keep all reciepts of calls, time and ect. Be sure to log who, when and were you called. I did not save this, and had to spend 3 weeks trying to catch up on stuff. I hope we all can resolve the problems with Toyota. I love my truck. Any suggestions on good places to buy alloy rims?
I have a 2007 Tundra 5.7.
No problems until winter set in.
After cold start up Engine makes a lot of
noise. It doesnt sound like a Diesel to me.
There is no rythm to the noise.
Sounds like a ball bearing flying around under the hood. It goes away after about 8 minutes of driving.
It finally got to 34 degrees here in Jax. The only thing I noticed when I leave my hous I hit a 4 lane road for a mile to I-95. In that distant my truck won’t shift into 6th gear. I was told it was because of the cold. Once I go onto the interstate it shifts and the temp guage has risen some. When it’s above 45 I don’t have this issue.
i’ve had my “07 DC limited” for 4 months now. i put almost 10k miles on it and
I MUST SAY I HAVE NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS THAT EVERYONE HERE IS EXPERIENCING!
I TOW ABOUT 2K POUNDS DAILY AND DRIVE LOND DISTANCES ( 400-500 round trip)
i think some people here must be on there first truck coming from a passenger car and thats why they feel so much shacking or engine noise..
ITS NOT A LUXURY CAR!!
ITS A TRUCK
FOR ANYONE THAT MIGHT BE WONDERING..
limited 5.7L 4×4 loaded loaded
but just a work truck. right
Bruno, congradulations on you’re truck! I’ll list my truck ownership history to lend some meritt to my complaint. 76 datsun ,77 ford courier,75 f-100.77 dodge powerwagon 4×4,99 ford 5.4expedition,2005 6.0 diesel f-350 and last 2007 toyota tundra. Do vans count? That would almost double the above list.How about automobiles in general. I lost count at 50 which was a couple years ago.And bikes damn! My cousin owned a very large Yamaha dealership in Ga. and I got bikes a cost. I know this all sounds stupid but it is only to illustrate my experience with transportation and likely that of others on this site. So maybe you got one of the good ones! Good for you! Now for an update on my tundra. Since new steering angle sensor has been installed my computer is out of its shell. I’m getting over twice the fuel mileage and the truck seems more responsive. I pulled a tandum axle trailer with my Karmin Ghia on it and it did great! I got a call from Toyota on the way home a minute ago to check on my truck and I told them it seemed to being doing well (gauges) and despite the tapping noise all seemed well . The service manager was on the phone and he says his 07 has 11000 on it and his is louder than mine.As for now Toyota has no remedy. I guess if its not falling apart then I can live with it. It may rattle but it is still the fastest truck in my neighborhood. Good Luck everybody !
mike,
thanks and thats right our tundras are still the fastest trucks out there.. i ‘ll confirm that!
mike,
thanks and sorry to hear of your problems, maybe mine is just one of the good ones out there. and thats right our tundras are still the fastest trucks out there.. i ‘ll confirm that!
08 dbl cab 5.7. 150 miles. That ever present engine noise. yes at start up but also present at operating temp, just not as bad. I cant believe its normal.
Thanks mie murphy post 251 for the info.
I will watch listen and wait.
I wish I had my 05 4.7 crew again. Now that was a solid truck.
07 DBL CAB 5.7 5,000KMS got a problem with the autostart.Started the truck up at -38c with it plugged in off course and it shut down after only running a few seconds.My check engine light has been on since then although all the guages are within normal operating limits.Has anyone else experinced this trouble with a autostart.This is my first bit of trouble,the truck runs good awesome power and great on the gravel roads so far so good the dealer told me when I bought it I would never go back to a CHEVY again he is right so far.About the gas mileage getting 650kms on the highway to the tank wasn’t doing much better with my smaller and under powered 2002 singlecab 4.8 shortbox chevy with the same size tank besides if I was looking for gas mileage I would have bought the Honda Civic.
2007 DC limited has a morror defect. Bought the truck last monday and upon night driving the inner half of the mirror has a double vision (more so headlights stacking one above the other) to it when you see headlights behind you. It’s mostly seen on the innher half of this particular mirror and I am not sure if it’s related to the autodimmers. I took it to the dealership tonight and the mechanic saw exactly what I saw so he brought up a new crewmax…..we could both see the same thing in the mirror….a slight double vision looking at a street light. Is this a common problem? They wouldn’t order me a new mirror either since the crewmax had a similar issue.
hey brett,
has you read in my above statements i’ve never had any problems with my truck… but i also have that double light ” problem ” or issue.
to me its not so much a defect or problem just a little annoying not knowing what cars are coming up behind you ( looks like too many cop cars sometimes ) get what im saying.
Hello again. Just an update on my problem tundra. After replacing the computer and the gauges and the steering angle sensor and driving 200 miles since the third visit to the dealership, the gauges failed again today and I called my dealership on the way home to let them know. Yes that was one hell of a run on sentence for any English teachers who might be on this blog, sorry.I have gotten to the point that I feel sorrow for the poor guys at Toyota Panama city.They have really tried to help with my truck and I told them that I realized this. The fact is that this is a big disapointment for us both. I have my lemon law booklet that came with my paperwork and I am filling out the forms now. I did tell the guys I would still try another Toyota because of their seemingly sincere efforts and the long history of great vehicles. Good Luck everybody!
This will be my last entry. Panama City toyota bought back my Tundra! I hope everybody with issues that can’t be resolved will be as fortunate!
Mike Murphy: Sorry to hear you’ve had so much trouble. Good news is the dealer was willing to buy back the truck. Not everyone is so lucky.
So what do you plan on replacing the Tundra with? Another truck or car? If another 1/2 ton truck, will you post back some of your experience, issues, likes and dislikes abot your new truck? Just for comparisons sake.
Just curious, has this turned you off from other Toyota vehicles or just the Tundra? Would you purchase another Tundra, in say 2-3 years after all bugs were worked out? Thanks!
Engine Noise
I rented 2 tundra pickups last month to compare engine “diesel” noise.
Unfortunately both 5.7 liter engines had the “diesel” noise just like mine. One had 14 K miles and it was much louder than mine which has 7k miles. The other one had 6K miles and the noise was comparable with mine. It is annoying but I have learned to live with it. Besides that I love my truck. Bed bounce is minimal just like any other truck.
When cold the transmission shifts rough.
I’m starting to wonder if Toyota did enough R&D on 6-spd transmissions. With the many problems reported here (TQ and shifting rough when cold, not going into 6th when cold) and the # of Camry’s with the 6-spd having troubles, I’m starting to wonder if Toyota wanted to be the 1st on the market so they didn’t do their normal R&D.
Just a thought.
the transmission is designed not to go into 6th until it warms up. This stated in the manual. I personally haven’t had any rumble strip issues with mine. It does shift hard when cold.
Thanks for sharing
WOW! I’m so disapointed with some of these reviews. I got an ‘06 Tundra DC with the 4.7L. It’s a great truck but I like the new design of the “07 & ‘08 and was looking to go check ‘em out. Guess I’m gonna wait now!
Hunter not all Tundra’s are having these problems. I’m at 16,000 miles and I only replaced my passenger mirror that quit working automatically at 15,000 miles. I have the 5.7. I have an AFE CAI closed system along with Borla XRS complete duals. I’m getting 22.5mpg at 60mph. I got 24.7 at 55mph. Got 19.7 at 70mph. As stated above on number 271 I have that issue while tranny is cold shifting into 6th. When I leave my house it’s only 1 mile to I-95 and the speed limit is 65 here. It doesn’t shift for that first mile. Then I get on I-95 and it shifts fine then. Tranny is warmed up by then.
Hey Mickey – Yeah who am I kidding – I’m still gonna go check out the 5.7 C-MAX. Man thats some good gas mileage your getting. How much were the upgrades – definitely worth it huh? The tranny issue is the same with the 5-speed Tundras – wont go into 5th until warm-up – says so in the owners manual too!
Hey guys did I miss something but how are you guys getting such a good mileage, I want to know I own a crew max 5.7, I like my truck a lot, I had the torque converter replaced at 7k miles on 10k right now and I might have to take it back I think is the transmission I’m having a problem with between 3 and 4th gear is not shifting right is shifting too hard..but let me know how to get good mileage.
I’d like to know the tricks, too, on getting better gas mileage in my 5.7 Tundra.
In a 50/50 mix of freeway and city driving, I get just over 15 miles to the gallon. I keep very meticulous records on every tank of gas. In my 2000 Silverado with the 5.3 engine, I consistently averaged 17.25 miles per gallon doing the exact same driving that I am doing in my Tundra.
However, my Tundra has a tonneau cover which my Silverado didn’t have, and I was much more aggressive with my driving in the Silverado. I have tried every driving trick that I can think of (easy starts, coasting, no quick acceration, etc) with the Tundra and I still can’t get anywhere near the mileage I got with my Silverado.
On the open highway, the best I have ever done in my Tundra, even with the tonneau cover on it, is 17 miles per gallon. My Silverado, without a tonneau cover, would get 19.5 miles per gallon on the highway.
The EPA mileage estimates on my 2007 Tundra were 16 city and 20 highway, the same as the EPA estimates on my 2000 Silverado. With the Silverado, I was able to consistently beat the city estimate and was able to come close to the highway estimate. With the Tundra, even though I am driving a lot more conservatively and being much more concerned about gas mileage, plus having a tonneau cover, I estimate that my seven year old Silverado that had 108,000 miles was getting at least 15% better gas mileage than my new Tundra with 6100 miles.
I had submitted earlier posts about the ticking, clicking, diesel-like noises in my engine. I had a nice meeting with t
he Toyota service people and the answer I got was that these noises are normal and nothing to be concerned about so I am doing my best to ignore them.
However, I just am not sure that I will be able to handle the noises, so my beautiful and otherwise wonderful Tundra may get traded for something that has a quiet engine (like my Silverado did!!).
Hay you know what
I like the way my cremax sounds
sometimes I wonder where these posts really come from?
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Hunter the AFE Cold Air Intake cost $265. Borla XRS duals cost another $450 at my local muffler shop. It will take awhile for my savings on mpg to pay for it. The duals didn’t increase that much .5mpg. TJW having a tonneau cover doesn’t improve mpg. Mythbusters did that test and soft or hard doesn’t improve mpg or loose mpg. It does make a believer out of me. When I bought my truck in July last year and when it was filled up with fuel the range always showed I had 393 miles. Since I put in the AFE CAI it shows 415 miles till empty. So it does help some. I’m not saying AFE is the best but the cost was cheaper than K&N, and Volant. Volant is recommended by TRD.
Tjw I had a 98 silverado that would get 22mpg at 80mph with A/C going. Did the dealer recommend synthetic oil for your oil change? I can’t be sure if synthetic would ease the tapping noise. I used synthetic from day one. I don’t have the noise coming out of the engine like you’re having.
2007 Tundra reg cab 5.7 4X4 10,500mi. I get about 14.5mpg city & highway mix. Im not sure why everybody is comparing fuel mileage to Chevys and Fords. Remember, Chevy’s little baby motor 5.3 puts out about 315hp and Ford 5.6 I think is more like 300hp. That’s like 20% less power. That’s like comparing apples to oranges. My friend has a Gmc and gets 22-25 on the highway. We ran side by side and I left him sittin still. The ponit is, you have to feed those ponys (especially if you use all of them).
I am clairol impaired and don’t know anything about mechanic’s and all but I would like to tell my husband about this AFE Cold Air Intake. Could you please tell me what it is? Where does one get it? and would it work on a 2008 Tundra?
Thank you for your help.
MY 07′ CREWMAX IS AVERAGING 13.2 MILES ON THE CITY AND ABOUT 13.8 ON THE HIGHWAY IT HAS A LITTLE OVER 12,000 MILES ON IT ALREADY. I DO DRIVE IT IT PRETTY HARD SOMETIMES BUT EVEN IF I DON’T I STILL GET AROUND THE SAME 13.2 TO 13.4 MPG WHAT GIVES THAT IS WAY TO LOW IS THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH MY TRUCK.
Lisa it’s quite alright on top of this site on the right hand side under Toyota after market parts is cold air intake click on that site. That would take you to where they explain and show about cold sir intakes. At the bottom of that site states where they have the least expensive cold air intakes for Volant and you click on that takes you to Volant and AFE. AFE was about $60-80 cheaper than Volant. You want a closed system because this fits exactly where your stock system is and works just like your stock system. AFE you don’t have to replace the filter or add oil. They give you directions on how to clean your filter. Also these sites show you how much H/P you get with a cold air intake. There’s even a tidbit on how it sounds too. Good luck on your research and if you have any questions feel free to run it through here on this site or you can try Tundratalk.net They are very helpful on that site with any problems you may have or want to find out about.
Within the last month I traded in my 2003 Dodge Ram (with a Hemi) for a 2008 5.7 Crewmax.
A couple of thoughts and concerns:
With less than 1500 miles on the new truck the mileage is 2.5 miles per gallon better than the Dodge.
It is quicker and quieter.
I hate the seat belt buzzer.
I wish the bed was 6″ longer. I know it is only 6″ inches but it is alot when hauling things.
After reading this blog, I am concerned about the flimsy tailgate. You so be able to load atleast 600 lbs. of whatever on it and it not bend or flex. After I read the post I went and looked at it. It is made for show and not for go! Toyota needs to fix this.
They made this truck to compete with the big boys, until this is fixed, it is a step behind.
If I would of read this blog before buying this truck I would have given it a second thought, because I bought it to be a truck not a car.
John I know everyone is comparing chevy’s, fords. By the way my chevy and the ford I owned was 4.6. If I’m getting the same mpg’s as they are then I’m the successful one with a 5.7.
OnlyGMmattershere: Well thanks for such an insightful post. Never seen such factual and non-bias information posted before.
FYI: I’m not a Tundra fan, actually own a domestic ‘06 1/2 ton. I’ll give the GM twins their credit, which they deserve. But be realistic and give Toyota it’s fair share.
So if GM makes quality trucks, why does the Tacoma outsell and last longer than the Colorado/Canyon and their predecessor S10/S15 prior?
The Tundra has it’s flaws, but you’re telling me the Silverado/Sierra has none?
I have one of these so called “problem free” GM’s sitting in my garage as we speak! I was unable to trade it in for my tundra due to a blown head gasket at 36k miles. Just goes to show ya nothing is perfect!
GM Please come to florida and take this crap 06 Silverado LT3. I ran out of duct tape to hold it together. Great you can do 100,000 miles with your engine. I couldn’t do 2 weeks 800 miles without the headliner falling down. 8x replacing that. Oh not to mention where’s my tail lights? O h yeah they both fell off. Imagine that. I don’t need those. O Yeah great engine but what do you do when it comes time to stop when your ABS quits working????? Yes I know “Like A Rock” well did you see my new slogan on my Tundra?? “THE NEW HEARTBEAT (TOYOTA LOGO) OF AMERICA” Oh by the way Was that GM who was way in the hole because of no sales or is it poor quality? Well anyway the AMERICAN people spoke so now GM in a bad situation.
I take it admin deducted GM an his band of fools.
i read an old post about crappy stock tires. true, i burnt a set off in 16000km. i have 23000km now. i am not happy with the paint, chips too easy, i drive a lot of highway for work. fuel tank way too small. fuel mileage not good enough for a 2007(i was getting same mileage with my 97 vortec 350ci). front end not enough clearance or travel, i’ve hit my bumpstops a couple of times on backroads. aftermarket parts, support or even knowledge is lacking in northern alberta. the toyota design hard box covers are crappy but look nice(mostly a hardware problem). my brother has an 04 tundra with hard cover, and he can take it off by himself in about 5 min. mine takes 20 or so with the lame way it is mounted. the traction control trys to take over too much. i usually turn it off when hitting gravel or snow, but the annoying part is the truck still beeps at me when the tires are spinning on said surfaces. i’m hard on my trucks and expect them to perform. i could find things that bug me about any new truck, so this one’s not that bad. it has power, comfort, and now a solid set of nokians for traction. the real test will be this spring when i’ll be in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night with a big mud hole followed by more big mud holes and 100km to the nearest highway.
I am a die hard gm guy,but i bought an 07 crewmax before halloween.The night i bought it(Friday) i took my wife and son for a test drive then i left for deercamp.I gave it the test. I hit every mud hole,climbed all the hills,and threw so many circles i’m still dizzy!It took almost $40 washing of that red Ga. clay but was well worth it.Sunday night after i got home i put the leveling kit on then Monday the 20’s went on.All week i worked on it installing dvd stereo (with all the goodies),headrest tv’s,catch-all mats,seatcovers,playstation,& a few other accessories,Just in time to go hunting again on Friday.And yes it was mud time again.I love fixing up vehicles.I have my own streetrod/bodyshop so thats what i do,but i figure it’s still a truck.Thats what i bought it for.I only have 3 complaints.1)It’s a pain to wash especilly with tow mirrors.2)I can’t keep my wife out of it(which she just test drove a new sequioa last saturday),& 3)That dang traction buzzer!!Is there any way to shut it off?I’m going to get some photos in sooner or later.Maybe i will after i wash it again or 2tone it with flames.I wish i’d taken some with the 22’s on it to answer some of yalls questions but i didn’t like it.There wasn’t enough rubber.It rode bad and looked like a low-rider,but they will look good after i finish my lift with taller tires.Have fun out running the Fords & Gm’s and it will i promise you!Thanks Toyota for making such a good truck,which may be bad sinde she wants one now!This is a true conversion from GM to Toyota.I worry what’s going to happen next?*@!?
Mickey – you are correct. Sorry it took me so long to kill that troll.
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Thanks Admin. It’s really appreciated.
Tsmith congrats on your truck. I have an 07 Crewmax Limited Nautical Blue. I put several mods on to mine. AVS Bug shield, 4 Weather Tech Tundra mats, Toyota Reverse Camera, Hellwig Anti-Sway Bar, Trail Fx SS Nerf Bars, Bully Step Bar, Fire & Ice 60″ LED Brake/Reverse Light Bar, AFE Cold Air Breather, Borla XRS Duals with 4″ SS Rolled/Angeled Tips, Euro Dezigns HID Low/High Beam & Fog Lights, Extang Black Max Tonneau Cover, Herculiner, TRD Shifter, Cosmos Halo LED Projection Headlights, XM Satellite Radio, Samsung MP3. I didn’t go with 20″ I stayed with the original 18″. I did buy on ebay anothe 18″ rim for the spare instead of the steel rim with a michelin tire. Had only one time visit to the shop to replace pass mirror because it wouldn’t auto close at 15,000 miles. I really enjoy driving this truck. Toyota suprised me with the new Tundra. I don’t worry about it being the first new model coming out. Because my last truck was aa 3rd year one with 3 defects and a recall. Nothing like seeing some people faces when they see the front those Halo projection lights looking like the BMW lights and seeing all 5 windows down and the sunroof opened jamming to XM. When they see the rear with the SS Tips, Bully Bar and Fire and Ice LED bar they catch back up giving the thumbs up. I always acknowledge this. It’s a good feeling. I have THE NEW HEARTBEAT OF AMERICA.
2007 tundra double cab, long bed. I love this truck. It has the power. We did change the torque converter as mentioned way back. No new problems with it. We average 14-17 mpg in the country. We did get 17 all the way on the interstate. We just bought a camper. 33ft long, weighs 7150. It pulled it like a dream. No power problems. It did not squat the truck at all. We pulled it down the interstate going 55 easily. Only using 1/4th of the power. I do want to fuss about the paint. It seems thin. One false move, and you can see the bare metal. Got to love it!!!
Paul it handled great pulling the camper. So far I only pull my 18.5 foot boat.
I have a 2007 Tundra DC SR5 4X4. Just bought aftermarket fog lights, anyone give me an idea how they mount?
Mark try tundratalk.net or tundrasolutions.com there you will get answers.
I am a retired owner of an Airconditioning Co. Have driven Fords for 53+ years, Traded every two years, In those 50+ years I have driven a few Chevy’s. Even tried Dodge in the early nineties, So, I do feel qualified to address the problems with anything that is mechanical (Have the same experience with Airconditioners) The manf plus the dealer, has to stand behind what they sell. Inevitably, when either of the afore mentioned manf tend to get somewhat successful, I find the value of their product tends to decline also. This is simply human nature at it’s best.In July of ‘07 my small Co had 14- F-150 Fords, + 1- Ford Van. When it was time to buy another vehicle, I met with branch mgr only to make this statement. I know we need to buy a couple of trucks, however all I want to tell you is what I do not want to buy. Here it is; Do not want to buy another Ford, Chevy, or Dodge? We have good service out of our Fords, they make a good truck. However, I an personally tired of the problems we have with Ford on any occasional warranty problem,. Plus the time it takes to get the problem corrected. I have been in a service oriented busines too long myself, to hear all the excuses, crap, they try to put on me everytime we have a warranty problem. The first thing a consumer does not want to hear is how much they have going on, and how long it will take to get it corrected, if they can correct it? A consumer that has called us for more years than I care to remember, only want us to recognize that he, or she, is hot, and wants to know when we can correct their problem.No matter what any of us sell, we sell ourselves, and we contiue to do that by getting the consumer’s problem corrected as quickly as possible. When the dealers recognize, we all sell mechanical machines that do break down, and the resoponsibility is in our corner, for we did sell the machine to them, and we can get the warranty in return, but the consumer is delighted that we as a dealer, do not worry them with the possibility of it being a problem for us, In turn, I have left several manf that did not give me the warranty on a few items. Howevr,I do believe I have never left a one, that would not have done it differently, if they had the chace to do it over. Now, back to the trucks we bought. We bought the branch manager a ‘07 Tundra SR5. We bought one of the techs a Nissan Titan. July 24,’07, I bought an ‘07 Black Tundra Limited 4×4. March the 24th I will have owned it 8 months, I have 24,900 miles on it, and it will turn over on 25K before it is 8 months old, The SR5 has about 15K miles on it. Do not know of the mileage on the Titan, However, we have not experienced any of the complaints I have been reading about. Yes, I do recognize some of the complaints, like the inset instruments and the Bridgestone tires on the Limited 4×4, which I would agree with. However, I do not think you, or I, special ordered these trucks, but did buy a mass produced truck that is on the market for our choice to drive them, if they meet our approval? Now, I’ve said all of this to say, we human beings, remember every negative vehicle we have ever bought, forgetting the positive ones. That is human nature. I am no different than you. I can recite all the bad year model trucks I have ever bought, However, if I do not dwell on the thought, I can recite you at least three times the number, I have loved, including the Chevy’s also. Back to my decision as owner of the Co why I made the decision not to buy anything but Toyota and Nissan. I did not listen to what Toyota, or Nissan told me, but I did listen to the drivers of both. Having been in the Tri-County area so long, drivers of both, only said ; “Dan, I know you are a Ford man”, but if you will try one you will like them. I too, made a mistake in buying my Black “07 Tundra 4×4, Did not buy it from the same dealer we bought the SR5, simply because they could not find one, We found one 50 miles away that had a black one just like I wanted. But as I have afore mentioned, the dealership bears a responsibility too. Will not make that mistake again.My black Limited has 25K on it, and the only problem I have experienced, was learning all the backward controls, compared with Fords and Chevy’s. Where the rubber meets the road; ” Is it Toyota’s fault that it doesn’t please me on their controls? They all work fine, I turn 71 this July,(Am an old Hot Rodder of the Fifties.) I am still six foot in my boots, I usually wear a Western hat. However, I can enter the driver’s seat with my hat on, which is something I could not do with my ‘04 F-150 4×4. I cannot do that in my wife’s Cartier Lincoln either? On my last oil changefor the Tundra, I was looking around at the Toyotas while getting my service work done. I sat down in an ‘08 Toyota Avalon, also with my hat on. Have driven Lincoln’s since ‘78, but guess which I will buy next? I still drive more than 3K a month. Am very active for my age. Do I need the 381 hp V/8 4×4? No, but I do have the power, and the ability to do what I might want to do, right? In the Seventies, I had 6 Fords, and 4 Chevy’s in my business. (In my opinion, we were nearing the time of throw away vehicles) My grown son, asked why I subscribed to “Consumer Reports?” Told him, to find out the problems each manf were facing. Both were having prolems. He said how can you do that? Told him it was only a reporting of the problems every manf were having. Told him if he would stick to the Seventies, I could answer any of his questions, my self. He didn’t think that I could. Try me, I said. On every model year I could tell him the positives points, plus the negatives points. He would call off the year of either Ford or Chevy. I would tell him the problems we had experienced. It was far too many with each manf. He finally conceded, I did know what I was talking aboutat that time, plus 30 more years I can add to the manf. The Human brain does remember the experiences we have, right? I’m not an Ed Wallace, but I have owned over 50 vehicles, counting all the business vehicles. I am pleased with my ‘07 Tundra. No, it’s not the perfect vehicle, but we aren;’t either, right?
Dan Moore
I bought my 07 Tundra reg cab 4X4 5.7 last Aug. I now have 12,000 miles and could not be happier. I drove this truck from Florida to Montana where I now reside. My Tundra is outstanding is the Montana snow and cold. I am excited that I will be traveling to California next week for some R&R and I am glad that I know I have a solid truck under me as I will be doing some off road stuff. So far only one problem and that was at about 3,000 miles. I noticed a slight vibration and pull to the right. I made an appointment with the service department and they forced balanced the tires and did an alignment. Problem fixed. By the way I was treated very well be the service dept. Thanks Toyota for building a bad ass truck!
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I have a 2007 4X4 DC TRD. I enjoy the power, deep bed, and the brakes. The seats are more comfortable than my 01 Tundra, which I would have kept were there more room in the back for my family. The 2001 Tundras brakes were undersized for the vehicle, so I am glad they addressed this on the new one. I have owned 8 Toyotas since 1980, and feel qualified to comment on interior fit and finish. This should be improved on the new Tundras. I also concur that the paint could be better, which is something I always thought Toyota bested others, especially the color silver. Yes, I may be nit picking here, but this is the reason I have been a Toyota man for these many years. I hope Toyota keeps this in mind when it comes time to replace my 07 ten years from now. Thanks to all others on this site for the good feed back. Happy motoring.
I am an old guy who has driven more SW Chevy’s than you can count. (350’s/5.3’s) I did not like the new fuel managment system on the 08’s, GM ruined a good engine. I have ordered a new Tundra SW 5.7, 2 WD but now have concerns. The one option which I have to have is limited slip/posi or whatever you call it. After these reading I do not feel I am getting it if it is controlled by brakes?? This will do no good in snow or ice. I also have concerns about the fuel mileage. Comments on either for this truck. Thanks Neil
In response to the gas mileage for the 2wd 5.7 2008 tundra.
My husband and I started out first in Oct with the 2007 tundra.
But after SEVERAL issues and dissapointments the toyota dealer bought back that truck and upgraded us to the 2008 double cab that we have now. We have had this truck since mid NOV. We are very pleased with most parts of this truck. The GAS mileage is NO WHERE near what they promised it to be. We do feel the 2007 had better gas mileage. the 2008 we get about between 13/14 city and hwy 15/16 MPG. For soome reason it seems to be getting worse as we put more miles on it. We have traveled from FL to CA. we have over 15000 miles on it so I feel we can safely say we have put the gas mileage to the test. It pulls to the right as well. We LOVE the braking system, the style grew on us and the comfort of the inside is great! The wind noise is annoying that is something that I did NOT notice in the 2007. Had I know my fears were valid with this V-8 as far as gas mileage…I would have NEVER bought this size engine! The gas prices of today are Killing ALL of us but to get a truck that gets NO WHERE near what the DEALER and MANUFACTURER PROMISE is very much a dissapointment!
Neil, I have a Tundra 4X4 5.7. I live in Montana as you should know we get tons of snow up here. To address your concerns on the limited slip issue, I would have to say that it works very well in the snow and ice. If you did not have that option this truck would be very difficult to drive as there is a significant difference in horsepower from what you are used to in the Chevys. If you did not want to use the LSD option you can easily disable it by holding the button down for 3 seconds. As for the gas milage, I recently returned from a trip to California and I averaged 20.3 on the highway at 65 mph. Of course if I go faster the milage will get worese but I like my horsepower and I dont mind paying the fuel bill.
Thanks John and Lisa for your response. My real question is, if you have limited slip on this 2 WD like they say, shouldn’t the wheels lock up together if one starts slipping? From what I am reading it appears that the one slipping will get a touch from the brakes? Here in OK we have some ice and snow, I have always been able to get around in a Chevy pick up with the posi and 2 WD. Will this rearend just lock a breaking wheel and you try to move or get out with just one wheel grabbing. I am not sure it makes any sense, I started to buy a 4X4 but I don’t really need one. If this 5.7 can get 15/16 around town and 18/19 on the highway I will be happy. I drive with a soft foot…I really do not even need the 5.7 but it is a retirement present for working my butt off for over 45 years.
neil, i have on 07 4×4, 5.7l. i live in northern alberta, lots of snow, even more ice(snowed this morning). i not partial to the traction control system snow or ice because the truck behaves differently than you would expect. it has pointed my nose at the ditch a couple of times, driving back country roads. if you sink the back end in mud or snow at a complete stop and floor it, the truck won’t go anywhere. the tires won’t spin, but when you turn the traction control off it will respond a lot more like your old chevy’s(which is all i’ve ever owned before as well). that said i leave it on for daily driving. i hit some black ice at about 80mph last march and i could not have responded as fast as the computer did to keep my truck on it’s wheels and not on it’s lid in the ditch.
I’m still getting over 20 mpg at 60mph. I have 23,000 miles on my 07 Crewmax Limited. Yes I used an AFE CAI along with Borla XS Sport duels. People you have to remember you bought a Big Block engine in the 5.7. Gas mileage won’t be good unless you do something to change it. Yes I live in flat land florida but I increase my mpg by doing the mods. They’re several brands out there that will help, TRD, Volant, AFE, K&N to name a few. I’m not into the HP with it. Just the gas savings you can get from it.
Does anyone know much about the “GAS CHIP” that saves on the gas?
If so can you tell me your experiences with it and if you know wether there is one for an 2008.
I Love out Tundra…but I tell you these gas prices are Killing “ALL” of us…so if I can find something that would help out, that would be great!
Thanks for your Help.
Lisa
Lisa from what I hear on other forums that those gas chips aren’t worth the money you spend on them. Everyone has stated go with a tuner when it comes out this summer.
Thanks Mickey for the advice…but being I am clairol impaired…could you please tell me more about this “Tuner” , what is it? when and were is it going to be available?
thanks Lisa
Okay, one more question about the 08 tundra rear end. Posi track or no posi track? Will the truck with the auto posi on spin both tires under hard axcelaration. You know, like at the drag strip! I have ordered a SW 5.7, but I really want something for light snow and ice in Oklahoma.
I live in Wi. and we had a cold snowy year. My 07 tundra dcab 4×4 sr5 sounds worse than a cummins deisel when it is below zero. Engine knocks like it is going to throw a rod or two. Also hammers when you pull a heavey trailor or pass a vehicle. Now it is warmer but I still hear engine noise all the time. Transmission also had to be replaced the day after i picked it up. Fuel milage is 12-13 average in cold weather and trans hanges up on shifts. Limited slip should be called limited traction on icey roads don,t even think about staying in 2wd. I got to say this is very disapointing and i will get rid of this truck way before the warranty is up. This engine is never going to last making all this noise. Dealer (smart motors of Madison says they can,t hear anything abnormal. Toyota should be ashamed !
Lisa I’m not very knowledgeable about tuners. From Tundratalk.net you have alot of people talking about it and all state this summer is when it will come out. It’s suppose to make your truck run better and efficient i.e. higher mpg. I’m not sure how it does it but that’s what I gather until it comes out we will here more about it.
I live in Canada and this winter we got down to -50 C with the windchill at one point. My 07 tundra 5.7L had no troubles but did make a light ticking diesel sounding noise before it was warmed up. I recommend going with the 0W20 synthetic oil if you live in these cold conditions. The transmission has been great. No slipping or other abnormal noises. It also handled great in the snowy conditions although it could use some better tires than the stock michelins it came with. I love it so far. I guess some of you are just getting a lemon in the bunch.
I owned 03 tundra stepside sr5 4×4 with 265 hp v8 ,only problem I remember was clunking noise in rear end at take off from red lights or all dead stops,truck did that for 3 years.Now I own 07 trd 4×4 5.7 and guess what? at 2500 mls that old time clunking is back like a ghost. Of course the dealer says he cant hear it,2nd dealer says something something sounds like its loading up,bring it and leave it.Well is anyone else hearing this clunk from dead stop.I think it only happens with 4by4,it could be the brakes because I release with 1 foot and step on gas with same foot . Between o and 4 mph the sound is always.
John – Any chance you’ve got something in the cab or bed of your new truck that you brought with you from your old truck? I’ve seen it before – you put some item in your car or truck and don’t realize it’s moving around. Based on the fact you’ve heard the same noise in both trucks, I’m thinking it’s a possible explanation.
I own a 07 DC SR5 4×4 with 32000miles yes i am almost out of warranty. I only have had one problem with the truck and the dealer replaced the drive shaft. I also am averaging 17mpg on the freeway. i have one complaint the truck is great but they could have spent some time on the stereo and speaker setup. also the truck now seems to be slower off the line but i still tow a 30′ trailer
I have a 2008 5.7L RWD Dbl. Cab Tundra with 5,000 miles. I have recently noticed a clunk/thud coming from under the dash possibly front suspension. It occurs sometimes when I start the engine and sounds like somebody doing a single, light knock on the firewall. Other times I notice it are when I am going over relatively small bumps in which the noise sometimes happens concurrently, but I can drive over rough RR tracks and not hear a peep! Also when I stop sometimes it seems to happen at the point when the truck’s momentum catches up when arriving at a complete stop, and sometimes upon releasing the brake from a stop. It does not seem serious and is not loud by any means, but my girlfreiend and I both hear it clearly. I am familiar with the sound produced by normal suspension travel (it is definitely not related to struts or metal to metal contact in the suspension). I have no slippage or shifting problems at all, just the thud noise that almost sounds like something is loose. I haven’t taken it to the dealer yet (but am going to), but can already hear them saying “sounded normal to me” or “I’m not hearing anything” as expected. I absolutely love the truck and am thoroughly impressed with it other than this problem. I’m obsessive and this is something I have now trained myself to notice. If anybody has any suggestions or potential solutions please let me know!! Thanks.
I too have had troubles with my 2007 Tundra. I own a DC 4.7 SR-5 . I have had to repair the tailgate as the clip holding the rod to unlock the tailgate broke.
My bed is also missaligned in relationship to the cab ,I have a vibration in the front end of the truck which the dealer has yet to properly fix. I have also noticed my front tires are wearing out at an alarming rate.I also found out that in the winter time I have pulled off road which packed snow in and around my rim(I have stamped steel wheels) the snow melted and set up overnight to form an Ice block (if you will) on the inside of the rim,causing the wheel to become unbalanced.”crappy” tires on the 34K dollar truck. I am soooo happy I only leased this vehicle and cannot wait to give it back to Toyota as I am very dissapointed in this truck and look forward to buying my next Ford or Chevy.
I have a 2007 5.7 double cab, short bed. Had the rumble during downshift, 5th to 6th. It has gone away. I have 1220 miles on the truck. I tow a 6500# fifth wheel. 900# in the bed of the truck. When moving out there is a lot of vibration in 1st gear and then 2nd gear. Vibration stops when it gets to 3rd gear and on up. Also, when towing my 5th wheel, any roadway not real smooth, there are lots of them in California, causes the truck to feel like the trailer is constently pushing and pulling. A large bump in the road is real unpleasent. I loaded 900# of cement around the hitch in the bed of the truck, to simulate the hitch weight, without the trailer. Shifted OK. No Vibration. No surging. Feels like the driveline is vibrating in 1st and 2nd gear when towing. Anyone else having towing problems?
Have you had the Torque Converter checked out? We had an 07 Tundra and had a similar problem it was the torque converter. Check this site for several other issues with the 2007 tundras. This is an awesome site packed with great information.
Thanks Lisa
should i buy i tundra!
The Look is great! The engine is nice. 6 gear… The road test was awsome! But i’m reading this treat for 1 hour and i’m scary!
somebody doesn’t have trouble?
f150 has a common look
dodge ram road test i did sucked…
my father silverado is … not very nice like tundra…
Max:
>>should i buy i tundra!<<
Personally, I don’t think I’ll ever buy Toyota again now. I THOUGHT I was going to be a loyal Toyota Man the rest of my life after wonderful experiences with a Celica and a Highlander. My Tundra Limited, though… different story. Read all the previous posts on bed-bounce, and I can ASSURE you they are 100% factual. I bought my truck only a couple of months ago (2007s needed off the lot), and when I drove it the truck was great. No issues around town.
On the freeway, though, it’s a HAZARD. The shaking is beyond description. I have driven trucks since I got my license, and this is no simple shake. Also, unless someone wants to offer to pay for my gas (hello, Toyota?), I should NOT have to put anything in the bed of my truck for weight to enjoy my ride. This truck is billed as a luxury utility vehicle. There’s nothing luxurious about rattling your fillings loose on the freeway.
I bought my 5.7 DC SR5 last may. At 300 miles the cig lighter blew out and the truck thought it was being stolen so it wouldn’t run. (Had my brand new truck TOWED out of my driveway!) Dealer put a new fuse in and all was fine until 21k this week. VSC off light is flashing all of a sudden ck engine light staying on and horrid shutter in the front end over 45mph. It’s going back to the shop on monday and I’ll post what they find. I am disapointed. I got rid of my pos 03 Expedition that had every problem you could think of within 45k for this. My right driver vent creeps too and my radio volume works when it wants along with being able to change the station. I think my truck has some sort of fatal electrical flaw causing most of these issues. We’ll see.
I bought a 2007 Tundra about one year ago. Regular cab, 4WD, 4.7 engine. Truck is used as a work truck. My obseravations at 18k miles:
Pro: quiet, lots of interior storage(especially behind the seat), so far dependable, dampening tailgate,
Con: stock tire selection ( Bridgestone- will need replaced by 20k), rear bumper should be slightly wider (the bed is so high that I must continually climb into the bed to retrieve items that can’t be reached from the side- wider bumper would provide more secure footing when climbing back and forth over tailgate), whoever designed the cup holder in the console must drink from much bigger cups than I do-an average can or coffee cup tips back and forth. Power door locks should be standard on all versions- truck is too wide to unlock passenger door without going around or crawling across the seat. Rear window could be larger to enable observation of cargo in the mirror.
At one year I am pleased, but as with any new design, some bugs remain to be resolved by Toyota.
This is not a Tundra concern but has anyone heard about the Tacoma suden acceleration problem. I have seen it talked about on the internet a few times but no one is confirming it is an actual problem
Steve: I have read many articles regarding this Tacoma issue. It does seem to be more common than Toyota is letting on. Could simply be driver error (ever see those tv shows where the old lady hits the gas instead of the brake)? I think the issue is too random at the current time and not enough people have complained or vehicles have been effected. Could be minor, similar to the 20 camshafts Toyota had fail in the Tundra. So yes I’ve seen and read about it, but don’t know the validity of the problem.
I have a 2008 5.7L RWD Dbl. Cab Tundra with 5,000 miles. I have recently noticed a clunk/thud coming from under the dash possibly front suspension. It occurs sometimes when I start the engine and sounds like somebody doing a single, light knock on the firewall. Other times I notice it are when I am going over relatively small bumps in which the noise sometimes happens concurrently, but I can drive over rough RR tracks and not hear a peep! Also when I stop sometimes it seems to happen at the point when the truck’s momentum catches up when arriving at a complete stop, and sometimes upon releasing the brake from a stop. It does not seem serious and is not loud by any means, but my girlfreiend and I both hear it clearly. I am familiar with the sound produced by normal suspension travel (it is definitely not related to struts or metal to metal contact in the suspension). I have no slippage or shifting problems at all, just the thud noise that almost sounds like something is loose. I haven’t taken it to the dealer yet (but am going to), but can already hear them saying “sounded normal to me” or “I’m not hearing anything” as expected. I absolutely love the truck and am thoroughly impressed with it other than this problem. I’m obsessive and this is something I have now trained myself to notice. If anybody has any suggestions or potential solutions please let me know!! Thanks.
I have a 2007 toyota tundra with a little over 2400 miles on it. The car is great so far and the gas milage is getting better everyday, but I took it in for service because the traction control cannot be turned off and the VSC OFF light keeps flashing. The dealer has told me that they had to order parts and that I will not have my car for a few days. Has anybody had this problem and if so what are they changing? My model is a 5.7 crew cab.
Peter
2007 Double Cab 5.7L TRD 4×4
Nary a problem boys and girls. Absolutely the best truck I’ve ever owned of 2 Toys, 5 – Chevy 1500 and 2500’s, 1 – F-250 diesel, and compared to countless Chevy, Ford and Dodge 4×4 trucks owned by my dad and two brothers. (I’m 43 years old). None of the problems discussed here. Currently thanking my lucky stars that I have the one I do. When I bought the truck, I actually had it brought to me from Natchez, MS to the DFW area because it was the only one in 5 states in the color I wanted with the add-ons I needed. When the pieces start falling off of this one from old age and countless miles, I’ll go buy another one just like it. Currently at 29,560 miles since March of 07.
i have had my tundra for about a month now…i love it but i only have one complaint…sometimes when i am stopped at a light it will suddenly give a thud/shutter. the truck wont move…it just does the thud. the engine doesnt sound louder or quieter…im wondering if maybe it has to do with the torque convereter? the only time it happens is when im at a complete stop. i would take it to the dealer…but i know for a fact it wouldnt do it when they would take it for a ride with my luck!
OK, if this is all the issues with the new Tundra, I am on my way to buy one. Current problems with my 2004 GMC 1500 SLT 4×4 w/ 40K miles:
Instrument cluster completely trash, replaced.
Steering column bearing fell apart, replaced.
Steering column intermediate shaft knocks, replaced and now the problem is back and it is a common issue on all GM trucks.
Tailgate supports fail, denting the tailgate on bumper.
Engine clatter when hot or cold start.
Steering gear is bad, harsh whine when steering in a parking lot at low speed.
Transmission shifting is harsh from 1st to 2nd when cold and when AC in on.
Locking rear diff. chatters when turning and cold outside.
Seat belt retractors squeak.
Popping felt in cab when going over bumps, dealer installed plastic slip sheets between cab and frame mounts.
Paint on hood crackled, no dealer repair.
Rear drive shaft replaced due to constant snapping when switching from drive to reverse.
Rear view mirrow temp and direction indicator behaves erratic in cold weather.
Anyway, I am going to the Toyota dealer today.
Thanks for listening.
I had some issues with my bed bouncing when I first purchased my crewmax. I heard that lifting the front end a tad would not only make the appearance better but correct the bed-bouncing problem. Sure enough, after installing a lift kit, I have driven my truck to speeds over 100mph and did not experience any bouncing. I love the ride and have not had any problems. NONE!
I’ve got a 2007 Tundra brand new with 311 miles on it from dealer.After 2 and half weeks I noticed where a piece of paint chipped. wa thinking of caring for it myself,because i thought it to be a rock induced damage.This was even though I have not hd any condition for any debris.I noticed a couple of days later there were more,and this is when i noticed paint bubbles.I need to state I noticed this after washing my truck each time more chips woud appear.I had taken the truck to the service department where i had bought it.I went through the process with the dealer and after a couple of weeks was told it was fallout environmentl conditons and that it is not under warranty.The thing is you can see where the paint is built up there are bubbles and also looks like contaminated paint job.I guess I need to go through with the “arbitration review” .Is it worth the trouble,does anyone out there had this experience or advice. Let me know because it is only getting worse
I would think this would be covered under the corrosion warranty. I’d call corporate and perhaps email them some pictures. And the worse it gets, the better for you in getting your point across. Keep washing your truck daily and find another dealer.
Daniel – I would work definitely go back to your dealer and speak with the GM. Paint shouldn’t be flaking off a newer vehicle – Toyota should warranty a re-paint. Check out this post for some tips:
http://www.tundraheadquarters......em-solved/
Just got 08 dc 4×4 5.7 and at 150 miles noticed a bang or thud when I state from a dead stop ( almost like the seat is sliding on its track) and I get the same thud just befor the truck stops. When I take it out of drive when I stop the thud is gone. Dealer said this is normal , any help on this one???RONALDPI@YAHOO.COM
This is a follow up from my previous post. I have a 2007 ,DC 4.7. My truck has 21K miles on it and I had to replace the junk Bridgestone tires that were supplied from the factory . I ended up installing Good year silet armour on the truck. To my surprise I have cured some problems with this vehicle. The oscillation noise has subsided ,the vibration in the front end has dissapeared (dealer could not figure this out)I did have the truck aligned(was not bad) . I live in the north east and many roads are just tarvia there are a few concreate roads around and I too have experienced bed bounce. I revisited these area’s and could not repeate the bed bounce. Tires made a difference? not sure but after the change I noticed a change in the vehicle. I am still dissapointed in toyota’s quality on the truck as the bed is missaligned to the cab and the tailgate locking handle connecting rods clips broke with a full load of mulch in the bed (was very unhappy).Never had this issue on any of my domestic trucks.Tundra is not a total wash out, but for the money I should have stayed with domestic maybe even say a few bucks…. would on gas anyways average 13 city 16 highway…..
I bought a 2007 Tundra SR5 4×4 Four door 5.7 ltr iForce.
I LOVE MY TRUCK!!!
I have owned mostly Toyota’s in the years of my driving and I don’t regret this purchase at all. I have experienced the radio situation and my dealer ordered one right away. Other than that, no problems (knock on wood). We have taken our truck out in the sand dunes in Pismo, California. It did great. We were able to make it all the way to compitition hill and the race track in the far back without any problems and the stock tires. No bed problems at all while we were piling through all that sand. I also have a ranch in Arizona, which is only accesible over a wash board road, still, never experienced any bed bounce. It’s easy for the FORD Proving Grounds to knock down the other models with a twist of a wrench. My ranch is only about 25 miles if that from their test sight. Never once have we seen them take a vehicle “other” than a Ford (F-OUND O-N R-OAD D-EAD) on the ACTUAL road test. We just purchased a 2003 39′ Weekend Worrier Toy Hauler 5th Wheel in Los Angeles and pulled it back to our home in Bakersfield without the truck breaking a sweat and that was over the infumous GRAPEVINE. Light weight on the trailer is 7,900 lbs. All that is needed is some air bags for the back end to keep the sag of that HUGE trailer from making us bottom out on driveways. Everyone who sees my beast compliments it and agrees, it is truly a nice vehicle. All I have to say is everyone has their own opinion on everything. If you find you don’t like something or don’t agree with something, don’t knock someone else just because they have a difference of opinion. I look forward to Toyota coming out with an even bigger and heavier truck, I heard a possible diesel is in the works within the next two years.
Max I hope you did your research. Not all, I SAY AGAIN not all trucks experience the bed bounce. Test drive the truck on the freeway as well in town. Just because you have no serious issues you’re called a cheerleader for Toyota. Be it as it may I had my truck in the shop 3x to fix minor things. I’m just 2 weeks shy of having it for 1 year. I do alot of road trips in my truck. I was also featured here on Tundra HQ. I have 33,500 miles on my truck. At 15,000 I had my pass mirror replaced because it wouldn’t auto close every time. Took 45 minutes. At 25,000 miles I had my center console cover replaced because it wouldn’t stay close. That took 10 minutes and they replaced the whole lid and cover. At 30,500 miles I had two lugs snapped off the same wheel. Driver’s rear. One of the lugs had my Toyota lug lock on it. They replaced both lugs and replaced the lock set free. That’s $80. They filed it under warranty. That took 3 hours. Had to wait on the lug bolts. Only two questions were asked on that. One was did I use an impact. I stated no just my 4way lug wrench. Then the second question was where was my lock key at, because mechanic couldn’t find it in glove box. I put it in ash tray. Don’t smoke. They wanted to send it back with the old lock lugs. The service advisor stated I come to the dealer with both Toyota’s for all maintenance and that Toyota can cover this for me for being a loyal customer. All I can say “well imagine that”.
From what I’ve seen with owners, it is hit or miss regarding the bed bounce. Also, the most common occurance for the bed bounce is on concrete interstates/highways at the joins or portions between each concrete slab that is set up for heat expansion. Which you get the bed bounce in all trucks in the above scenerios, just seems a little worse in the Tundras that experience the issue.
Mickey: Glad to hear the Dealer & Toyota are treating you good and correcting any issues you’ve come across. Also nice to see they want to send these parts back to Toyota, hopefully for some R&D to determine the cause of failure and how to improve the parts. Keep us up to date on your warranty & maintanence issues as you gain more miles. Sounds to me like only minor problems so far.
07 dc 5.7 had just got back from the Toyota service center and found out that my front diff unit is faulty. they have replaced 5 in the last 4 months.
I felt like i was being pushed when i was coming to a stop and a slight lug when i was taking off almost feels like i am driving with my front drive shaft.
This truck is still a great working truck. They wont tell exactly what was wrong with the diff though
I have a 2003 tundra v8 with 110000 miles, no complaints, just maintanance,oil changes ,spark plugs, timing belt ,water pump,and front rotors.I wouldn’t buy the new tundra yet till they fix them bugs.It happend with the 2000-2003 tundras,they had brake,o2 sensors, and transmission problems , but they fixed them in 2003.I’m sure they’ll get it right eventually.
Warning K&N filter
Warning K&N filter
Warning K&N filter
for tundra 5.7 sucks. For months i have been getting extremely poor gas milege. switched back to factory air filter improved gas mileage by 30%.
Also after installing K&N there was a whistelling noise occurring in the air system
I have been a long time k&N filter believer until a week ago. I’m kicking myself for not realizing sooner it was the K&N filter, I would have saved myself a thousand dollars over the last 5 months
D
2007 Tundra crew max 5.7 leveling kit 3″ 285/ r20
Bought a ‘08 DC 4×4 5.7 with the TRD. Very pleased. I have experienced none of the dreaded box bounce. I believe the TRD rides *better* than the AA truck (Std SR5) The AA’s seem very underdamped…. In all reality if you set up the right conditions you can get any truck to swing into a wild harmonic and get the bed to dance… I can tell you this; I drove all the Big 3 had to offer first. The quirky dash and unflattering paint are the only minuses I can find with the Tundra. The drivetrain on the Tundra is nothing short of incredible. The GM has a very nice interior…. drum rear brakes and a whimpy engine. The 2500 relievs the brakes, but the 6.0 is still weak…. The Dodge has an OK interior, nice styling, killer paint and OK power. The Fords are bolted together very well, ride nice and have an embarassing engine/trans combo (I think the transmisison is controlled by the worlds slowest computer…)
If Toyota gets a nicer dash and some decent paint on the Tundra it’s game over for the Big 3….
David: Glad to hear the good word on the new Tundra. Hope you enjoy.
Now as with you, the paint and dash are a glaring weakness on the Tundra. Can be improved quickly and without too much R&D money by Toyota. Also felt the Tundra sheetmetal was a little weaker/thinner than the competition. Plus the fact I fit around 400-500lbs on my tailgate this weekend, which might not be possible with the known tailgate issues with the Tundra. The Tundra powertrain is amazing and puts the rest of the 1/2 tons to shame.
Personally I dislike the GM interior, but to each their own. I take it you drove a 5.3L by your review, since the 6.0 in the 1/2 ton is nice and powerful, almost to the Tundra level. The 6.0L is sort of a dog in the much heavier 3/4 ton (2500) truck. This is a similar experience with the Dodge 3/4 ton with the 5.7L Hemi and Ford 3/4 ton with the 5.4L, just too much truck for the motors to move. I too am suprised that GM is still running rear drums while the rest of the competition has discs on all four corners.
Your review if the Ford is basically spot on, but the acceleration issue isn’t a problem with a slow computer, it’s the way the truck (PCM) was designed. True Ford uses an old 4spd auto design and the 5.4L is underpowered compared to most the competition, but the redesigned ‘09 F150 will be increasing power in both the 5.4L & 4.6L while using a 6spd auto. Now unlike the rest of the 1/2 tons, where when you hit the gas the truck gives you all it has, the Ford is programmed to ease throttle acceleration. This program is what Ford calls “Electronic throttle control” which the ETC yields smooth, consistent response. Here’s an article that describes the ETC in full. This is a big reason why you don’t get the big pushed back in your seat feeling when driving an F150. Not saying this is the only item holding the F150 back, but it is a contributor.
http://articles.d-tips.com/art8.html
Thanks for the review and hope you enjoy the new ride!
I agree that the paint and dash need improvements. As far as the tailgate, my only problem was that it wouldn’t open. The clip that holds the rod in broke. Dealer replaced with an improved version. No more problems, has been almost a year. I routinely load my tailgate with 500 or more lbs. I have not seen any issues. Specifically, I load bricks on the tail gate and then step on the tail gate as I’m loading and unloading them. Have not seen any cracking.
hey guys..anybody had a problem with a oil leak..the bottom of my truck has oil..got under there and there is motor oil all ove the bottom..looks like is coming from under the engine there is like a oil pan under the engine and it looks like is coming from there cause the rest of it is dry and clean….i like this truck is a 07 tundra 5.7 v8 crewmax….has anyone had this problem..???? also the pain on the truck is bad..toyota did real bad on the paint job..I’ve had the truck for about 6 months and the paint job on it looks like is 4 years old..oh and yes i’m taking the truck back to the dealership I got it..the dealership where I live will not work on my truck because I did not get it from them…i think is stupid but the service manager told me they couldn’t help me out because I’m not there customer..I could get Toyota involve but I don’t want someone working on my truck that does not want to help me out..but let me know if you have that oil leak..or have you found a solution on the paint job..besides getting a new paint job…but other then that…it’s a bad truck..it will get up and go…
Carlos: Sorry to hear about your issues. Hopefully this is an easy fix, but I haven’t heard of a problem like this on a Tundra yet. Without seeing and owning a Tundra, I can’t say much other than check your oil pan drain bolt. This this is the area you mention the leak is at, maybe during your last oil change this bolt wasn’t tightened back to spec. Or if you’ve never had an oil change, maybe it came from the factory this way. I suppose you already checked this, but can’t provide much more help on this issue.
Now if you need warranty work completed, no Toyota dealer can turn you away. Heck, what if you lived 100miles or so from the next closest dealer? No matter where you purchased the truck, you are a Toyota customer and I’m sure Toyota would love to hear about this dealer and how they are turning away customers simply because you didn’t purchase it from them. Personally I think this is bad business, but that’s the dealers problem if they want to refuse work. Most likely refusing the job since the truck is under warranty and they don’t get paid nearly as much from Toyota as they would if you were footing the bill. If they have stated this, I would check with a higher up in the dealership or the owner. I’m sure they’d like to know about customers being turned away and the bad rep the service manager is creating before you head to Toyota Motor Corp.
Either way, it might be best to avoid this dealership now. Who knows what type of trouble they could cause your vehicle if you complain and the service manager wants revenge.
Agree with Justin on your oil issue and customer service at a dealership. That dealership is being very lazy and don’t want to do any service to your vehicle. This will cause extra paperwork etc for thast dealership since they didn’t sell it to you. Another issue would be how that dealership will get paid for the warranty work. Case in example what if you moved to that area? They are telling you that you need to go all the way back where you come from to fix it? They know they are wrong in this. You need to bring this up to Toyota and let them know what’s up with this dealership. You don’t have to fix it there but let them know and drop a letter to the BBB about it. It may change there ways.
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How do you get that maint light to go off without going to the dealership for every oil change on the 5.7liter tundra?
I have an early 07. There is a TSB on the oil leak; easy fix on a seal at the base of the dipstick. See http://www.tundrasolutions.com.....ics-reset/ for an explanation how to reset the MAINT light.
Thanks Dan for the heads up. Maybe the admin (Jason) can post this link or description of the issue and models effected somewhere on the site. Great resource.
Also found on ToyotaTundraforum.com a list of known TSB’s for the 2nd Gen Tundra. Of course the links don’t work, but a little understanding/description of know issues can always help. Basically they are links from AllDatadiy.com, which is a pay site for TSB info. Provided is also the AllDatadiy.com site for those willing to pay for further details.
http://www.toyotatundraforum.c.....calls.html
http://www.alldatadiy.com/
AWESOME TRUCK! I’ve got a 2007 5.7L Tundra (Texas Edition) Double-Cab; 22″ chrome wheels; 2 wheel-drive; Leather seats; 6 cd-player w/ mp-3 capability; 381HP (plus more for the K&N filter I installed); Gas mileage=15 to 16mpg (city); 401 torque; Smooth ride! Great truck. I’ve got about 11,000 miles and zero problems! I change the oil myself (though it’s a pain to remove the skid-plate every time just to get to the filter. I love this truck. Can pull 10,600 lbs. while 1,500 lbs. are in the bed (totalling over 12,000 lbs. or 6 tons). Zero to 60mph in 6 seconds (rivals some Mustang Cobras). Smokes the F-150, Silverado & Titan (by the way, the Titan seems to be the cheapest truck around; worst rated, along with the Dodge). Titan has only about 310HP (you probably see more of them because they’re the cheapest price).
Mike Harris: Glad to hear about the truck and that you’re happy. Gotta suck removing that skid plate even though it shouldn’t be too hard, but it is an extra step that just takes a few extra minutes.
–Double check to make sure you are not exceeding the Toyota recommended weight. The 1500lb payload includes all cargo, occupants and the tongue weight of the trailer you are towing. If your tongue weight is 300lbs, your payload decreases to 1200lbs, etc. Also, larger tires such as your 22″s will decrease payload/towing capacity. So to be on the safe side, I wouldn’t recommend running anywhere near the max. Puts more strain on the components, decreases the life of the truck and is unsafe. Even with how good the 1/2 tons are today, I wouldn’t recommend towing over 9500lbs with any 1/2 ton, no matter make/model. Here’s some disclaimers straight from the Toyota website, check them out.
–Payload
The weight of occupants, equipment and cargo that a truck transports. If the curb weight is increased by adding components (such as a bigger engine or an automatic transmission), the payload rating will decrease.
http://www.toyota.com/pdfs/towguide_Part1.pdf
http://www.toyota.com/pdfs/towguide_Part2.pdf
http://www.toyota.com/pdfs/towguide_Part3.pdf
–And I don’t know why everyone here is about 0-60 times in a Full-Size truck. As I always say, it’s a nice option to have when needed, but that one factor does not make it better than the other makes/models. Ford has been on the bottom end of the 0-60 times, but still sell more and are considered one of the best trucks on the road. Sure compare it to a Cobra, but lets see stopping distance and manueverablity, etc.
–Also, the Nissan isn’t the cheapest price wise, even though they do have some good incentives on them currently since they’re not selling. Now if you’ve ever driven a Titan, that 310-315hp 5.6L is underrated. Also, lb-ft of TQ is more important in these full-size trucks than hp #’s.
–Again glad you love the truck!
Mike glad you’re happy with your truck. Like you I have an 07 Crewmax with 35,300 miles and doing quite fine. Unlike Justin who doesn’t like anything better than his Ford always has his pin ready to burst any Tundra owner’s bubble. Justin I tried to understand you but going on all Tundra sites to find whatever you can to bring down the Tundra. You’re either obsess or something did you wrong.
Mikey: So trying to provide truthful and honest facts directly from Toyota’s website is bursting someones bubble? Simply stated the Tundra can’t tow 10.6K and have a payload in the bed of 1500lbs, all at the same time. Well, I guess you could, but this would be illegal and against the Toyota recommendation. Not my problem if you endanger others in your area and potentially void your warranty. Just don’t come around my neighborhood towing that kind of load with a 1/2 ton, any 1/2 ton.
–So Tundra owners it’s okay to boast about the 0-60 times? Even though that is not how you truly define a truck and its capabilities and if one is better than the other. Like I’ve always stated, they are some powerful beasts with that 5.7L. Just don’t consider that the sole reason why a Tundra is better than any other make/model 1/2 ton. Again I state the Tundra has upped the bar for the competition in the powertrain dept, but Toyota is still trying to catch up in many other catagories. I appreciate what the new Tundra has done, since competition breeds competition.
–I don’t go on other Tundra sites other than to research something from the consumer experience. I will read magz and other online reviews to gain knowledge of any/all products. I do this to find out the goods and the bads so I can make an educated decision on my next truck, whatever make/model that may be. Not just go by the “Well it does 0-60 in XYZ” or “It’s the newest on the road”, so it must be the best” or “It’s a Toyota, so it’s built better than any American truck” mentality.
–You and I may agree on some points, we may disagree on more points, but the bottom line is the product at hand. You consider the Tundra the best 1/2 ton on the market. That is your opinion and right to think this. I feel differently, this is my right. Our experiences with certain makes/models differs from each other that have brought us to where we are today. But I hate to be so repetative and redundent, but I come here to provide objectivity and another perspect that some owners or potential owners may never have thought of. But to say I’m soley here to burst bubbles or praise Ford, I am not. Look through my posts, all of them on all threads. You’ll notice I have good/bad things to say about every make/model, no vehicle is perfect. Sure I do have a preference, but this is based on my needs/wants/likes in a vehicle, not yours, no Joe Schmoes.
Hey I own a 2008 tundra DC 5.7 and I love it! I personally think that the “new tundra” is the best half ton pickup on the market at this time.I work for a Ford dealer and have worked for ford for a total of 12 years.Even with my employee discount I couldn’t get the f 150 Four door with a center console for the same price as my tundra with those options.The only problem I’m having with my 08′ tundra is that I can’t keep my foot out of the gas pedal! Man this truck has insane power.It tows my 24′ enclosed car trailer with a Ford Mustang in it perfectly.
Justin I will try to bring a website for you to look at. I’m not a fan of you tube but it was on another Tundra club to see. It shows you all you want to know.
See if this works Justin. I thought you might like this. http://jalopnik.com/tag/amci/
Shawn: Glad to hear you’re loving the truck! Now on the Ford with the center console, were you wanting it with the console shifter rather than the steering column shifter? I know the center console shifter with bucket seats was/is a little more costly than having the steering column shifter with bucket seats and ceter console. Keep us up to speed on your impressions of the truck over time.
–Mickey: I to dislike youtube, especially all the kids that post remarks and have no clue what they are talking about. I have seen too many clips there that were questionable and many that were manipulated. Some are decently accurate though. But heck, post anything you like, I’m willing to review anything and post my thoughts. Here are some promotional vids of the ‘09 F150. Some are legit, like the detroit locker & frame flex, others like the acceleration I’m not so sure of. Says they used the Tundra 5.7L/6spd and Silverado 5.3L/4spd, but how hard was each truck really pushed. I’d like to see the Silver Creek vid from the exterior to see the true flex of the truck. So a lot of speculation can be made from videos on youtube without knowing all the factors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wphkjCEl49c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTOFX7T7Vqg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R5qOfiMc00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW58XcTMM64
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eks7-BPkNZ4
Mickey: Have seen this vid before, Toyota used to have them on their own site. But is Toyota really trying to capture the racer or the roofer? By most their commericals, you’d assume the roofer, but still rarely see any Tundras on construction sites locally. Of course this may differ in other areas.
—Now I do question some of the validity of these vids. They cut away from one angle to another is too often to get a good understanding of how good/bad each truck really did. Just on the 0-60 test, you notice the Tundra is pulling away from the Titan, next clip the Titan is almost exactly beside it while the Tundra is pulling away, then next clip the Titan is right along the bedside of the Tundra again at the end. Same scenerio with the 0-60/1200lb payload test. Tundra is pulling away from the Titan, on the 2nd clip the Titan starts gaining on the Tundra, then the last clip the Titan is almost a truck length behind. 3rd clip the trucks stay in bascially the same order they left the gate from. Now the 0-60-0 test is really questionable. As you’ll notice the 1st & 2nd clip are the identical clips they used in the 0-60 test which had a different ending. We all know the Tundra gets to 60 the fastest, so it’s gonna start braking before the other trucks even hit 60. Sure it stopped 31 ft shorter, but a lot had to do with hitting 60 sooner and applying the brake sooner. So yes it’s a nice test, but a better test would be 60-0 by itself. Same scenerio with the 0-40-0 with 8500lbs. Compare 40-0 with this load to get a more accurate braking test. All I can truly tell from the 0-60-0 & 0-40-0 is the Tundra hits 60 quicker than the others. The 25-65mph test looked fairly accurate if not spot on, but they still used some video clips from the previous 1200lb load test. The reusing of video clips makes these results kind of questionable and/or misleading.
–Now I don’t doubt the Trundra gets these loads moving quicker, and stopping sooner, due to the larger brakes and superior powertrain. Just question the tactics used in this video. What I’d like to see is how the Tundra compares carrying these loads in situations other than a straight line and with wind gusts. Basically how does the Tundra control the weight in comparison to the other makes/models.
Both of my Chrome bumpers on my Tundra began to rust at 5,300 miles. The first time I took it to the dealer the Service Rep said that it was normal. I called Toyota USA and they said it had to rust completely from the inside out. Taking matters into my own hands I had a magnetic sign made with the problem on it. I included my opinion of the truck and dealer on the sign. After three weeks I got a call from the dealer. They said because they loved me so much and I was such a good customer they were going to replace both bumpers. The day I had my bumpers replaced they also replaced them on four other trucks. So now I love my Tundra.
Bob – Your comments are interesting – we reported about this problem on a separate post: http://www.tundraheadquarters......-nut-rust/. Check it out.
Bob A: Sorry to hear about your troubles and the extent you had to go for replacement, but at least they were replaced, hopefully free of charge. Now keep an eye on your new bumpers, just in case. Hopefully Toyota has improved the chrome plating on the ‘08 MY and any replacement bumpers. Also try some of the stuff in the link below, which can be found at your local auto parts store. I use it about once a month, leaves a mirror like finish and removes rust buildup.
http://www.turtlewax.com/main.taf?p=2,1,4,12
Tundra rocks. Yes, Justin, I’m aware of all the issues you mentioned (tongue weight, consider the passenger weight when calculating total load, etc.). I just stated some quick, overall capabilities of my Tundra. Prior to purchasing, I checked comparable makes/vehicles (1/2 tons). Ford cost more & provided less (Lariat). Silverado & Dodge the same. Nissan compared in cost, yet couldn’t hold a candle to Tundra’s capabilities. I love the hydraulically assisted tailgate on the Tundra (smooth lowering). The Ford tailgate just slammed down. On another note, my Tundra was assembled in San Antonio (U.S. assembly plant); by U.S. employees. I’ve noticed Ford & Chevy have more and more assembly plants in Canada and/or Mexico. This is all done for money, of course (they’d rather pay Canadian or Mexican employees far less than be forced to pay U.S. employees our minimum wage, etc.). Everything is more of a global environment today, anyhow.
Mike H. – Thanks for the response and glad to hear you understand all the factors that go into towing. I’ve run into too many people that buy a truck, no matter what make/model, and simply go by the numbers.
They have no comprehension of what these figures mean, how they relate to carrying a load and what the issues may be if they overload their truck. They just like fact of having the best numbers without knowing what they truly mean.
–Interesting bit on the cost part. We all know the Tundra does come with more standard equipment than the other 1/2 tons, raising the initial purchase price over the others base model. What you may find on the high end models, is the prices vary from dealer to dealer and model to model. A dealer may advertise the truck at MSRP, but this is not the true sales price many pay. I know with my truck, MSRP was between $37K-$38K, but I paid between $27K-$28K. Of course a lot has to do with the market you reside and the dealer (example: a 4X4 model will cost more in CO than FL, due to more people require/want 4X4 for the snow). Either way, congrats on getting a good deal. Too many people don’t do the proper shopping around for the best deal.
–Hmm, the tailgate on my F150 doesn’t slam, but it doesn’t slowly lower itself either. It’s easy enough to lift and lower with one hand. Sounds like a good selling point for you, but not one of my top priorities when buying a truck. Just personal preference.
–My F150 was built in KC and has been for many, many years. Sure Ford is starting to build some of their vehicles outside the states. What about Toyota who has done so for the majority of their business life? So you think it’s okay for Toyota to have an upper hand by spending less on employment, union fees and all other aspects related to building a vehicle and running a business, but it’s not okay for the domestics to do the same? Also, how many American employees are employed by Toyota, vs Ford, or GM or Dodge? The figure for the domestics is still significantly larger, even with many of the layoffs and plant closings. This is an upsetting issue for me. I dislike the fact the domestics are laying off American workers. At the same time they also have a business to run and keep afloat. Sure sometimes to compete in the market, you must do things that ruffle some feathers. Yes your Tundra is built in the states and it pays American workers for doing so. But bring all the Toyota products over to the states, employee only unionized American workers and you’d noticed Toyota’s profits/spending would take a huge hit due to the additional requirements and pay scale in comparison to other countries. Like you stated, it is a global environment today, everyone is seeming to outsource today. So why try to knock Ford or the domestics for doing this, while everyone else, including Toyota is doing the same?
Mike H –Some info for review on how many Americans are employeed per 2500 cars sold. So even with the domestics moving outside the US, they still employee 2-3 times as many Americans. Ford employees 80 Americans for every 2500 vehicles while Toyota employees 33 for 2500 sold.
http://www.levelfieldinstitute.org/jpc_rating.html
Justin with all do respect you’re doing the same against Toyota.
Justin – Great link to the “jobs per car” info. It’s a really interesting metric. However, I think there’s a hole in the logic being used. People don’t usually decide between Toyota and Ford on a generic basis. They decide between specific models – i.e. a Ford F150 and a Toyota Tundra. I don’t have any numbers, but if we were to assume that some percentage of Ford’s employees (say 15%) were responsible for building the F150 and use that smaller total jobs number to come up with a “jobs per F150″ rating, I don’t think it would be much higher than Toyota’s “jobs per Tundra” rating. At least not twice as high. Seems like a good blog post…
Mickey: Not sure what you mean? Looking at my last two posts, I’m not sure what I’m doing/saying against Toyota. Just countering points made in previous posts with my thoughts, real world experience and a little data I’ve come across. Don’t see where I have said anything negative against Toyota, just pointing out some factors that will impact any make/model vehicle. Let me know.
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Admin (Jason): Very true. I’d like to see the break down per make/model vehicle. I’d venture to guess you are probably right about the Tundra/F150 employment, being many F150s are now built in Mexico & Canada. Also, I’m unsure if the Toyota figures include/exclude Lexus/Scion and if Ford includes/excludes Lincoln/Mercury/Mazda/Volvo. It was simply to provide some data on the employment of Americans by the auto manufacturers, since Mike had brought up that Ford is sending many products outside the US, which may be good for business, but not so good for the US economy and workers.
Justin – For sure. It’s a good metric I think, but the whole “buy an American truck” argument is just a little flawed, especially when it someone advocating the purchase of a Dodge or Chevy over a Tundra. Now when it comes to a lot of the rest of Toyota’s vehicles, clearly buying American helps more U.S. auto workers.
Justin I did read that blog. Intresting I can say. My only issue I have with that is where I live now the house is 1 year old. When I built this house it costs an extra $10,000 for schools in the area. My problem I have no kids in school so why should I have to pay? Just something different that had a similar meaning with the blog. Thanks for putting it out.
I agree with an earlier comment that in the Texas sun you can’t read the clock, especially if you are wearing sunglasses. I also wish that there was a compass; I didn’t realize how much I missed it. Finally, I wish there was a phone holder or space to attach one. The perfect place would be where the coin holder is on the dash. I don’t use the coin holder because since the truck was designed to be so quiet on the inside when I placed coins in the holder it made just enough noise to be irritating.
Maybe it sounds like I’m griping, but I am not. I am very happy with my truck; there are just a few things that Toyota might consider for the future. If there are any remedies for these I would like to know.
Glen I agree with you about the coin slots on the dash. No need for it. I had mine a year and still wondering what I can do with it.
Glen – Hopefully Toyota will incorporate your suggestions into the next design – that’s the type of stuff designers really like to hear.
Hello all,
Just bought a used 07 Ltd, 5.7 double cab w/ 9K miles and drove it 1600 miles back to my home. OK, lets talk bed bounce…all pickups do this over concrete highways / expansion joints. My GMC did it very bad, even being a 2500HD, I just saw a Ford super duty doing it and it looked like the bed was going to touch the cab!!! This normal on pickups, all makes all models becasue they have little or no addition support to the frame where the box meets the cab, so it is going to flex, it is not a defect. Now couple that with highway expansion joints and just the right speed and you have bed bounce. The fix??? Add some weight (4 bags of river rock from Home Depot) and drive faster or slower until the bounce goes away. I know, like I said, I just drove 1600 miles in mine. This is the best truck I have ever driven, yes it has a few issues, but overall and considering it the first year for this model, I am very impressed. As for engine clatter / noise, I hear what you are talking about. The fix for my GMC (clattered like an old washing machine when started) was to switch to synthetic oil, which I am doing today. I will let you know the results. Remember most engines in development, are stress tested far in excess of anthing we could ever do to them. So it makes a little noise, still feels good to kick the crap out of a hemi at the green light!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lastly, I saw part of a discussion on the Japan vs USA thing. Keep in mind that nearly all parts for GM, Ford and Dodge cars / trucks are made in Canada and Mexico, then assembled here in the US and you can buy stock in those companies. Toyota uses parts from Japan and Canada (10%-90%) and assembles them here in the US and you can buy stock in Toyota. There really is no such thing as an American built car, only American assembled cars. If the majority of money stays here and is paid to workers here, either way there is no difference. Besides, the US needs all the friends it can get in this world, and I will pick Japan over Mexico, Europe, China, etc.
Question, has anyone experience a discoloration of the factory 20″ silver wheels. There is no curbing or damage, just looks like black spots around the outermost part of the wheel and black drips from the lug nut holes.
Thanks!
2007 Tundra 5.7 SR-5 reg cab pickup 9500 miles
Toyota replaced torque converter and transmission for the “rumble” problem at 300 miles and have acknowledged the problem with certain serial numbers. The replacement torque converter and transmission has a different/new part mumber. Toyota replaced the tail gate after I sprung it removing a 1200 pound bale of hay. The replacement tail gate has a different/new part number and is a more heavily reinforced. I didn’t like the way the front fender liners had been installed, Toyota replaced the liners. The aforementioned problems were corrected at no charge to me, as they are acknowledged problems by Toyota. I also noticed a slight bounce over expansion joints when the truck was new. After a few months of “farm” work the bounce seems to have disappeared, even with 45 lbs of air in the tires. My gas milage seems to fluctuate between 16.5 and 19.5 mpg, depending on the type of driving,
load and amount of ethanol in the gas. It would probably get better milage if the transmission didn’t down shift while applying the brakes decending hills…brake pads might be cheaper than fuel in the final analysis, but I like the feature. I have owned Silverados and Fords and can say that the Tundra drivetrain is the smoothest, by a wide margin. The brake-assisted limited slip rear wheels is indeed a surprise, as it works as well if not better than the mechanical limited slip differential on my old Silverado. The plastic hub caps on my standard SR-5 wheels are discoloring, I suspect I can get Toyota to replace them..free..we’ll see
Martin if you don’t like the downshift of the tranny use the sequential shifter and downshift yourself to your liking and this will halp with your feelings on a down hill slope. Try it and let me know if it helps.
Brian no discoloration here on my rims. Over 36,000 miles. Every 5,000 I rotate and polish the rims so this keeps up with a good look to them.
I have the 2007 Tundra Double Cab Limited 4×4 with the TRD offroad package, about 10,500 miles. I have experienced some “bedbounce” but nothing excessive. I am disappointed by the ordeal it takes to change the oil. The FJ Cruiser has a spin-on filter mounted at the top of the motor. Why couldn’t the Tundra? I have experinced the radio not only turning off, but also the volume going up and down by itself. I thought the A/C vent to the right of the steering wheel was unique to my truck, glad this forum is here to let me know. I have been a loyal Toyota owner Tundra, T100, 4-Runner, Celicas, Corolla, and have to admit that the american parts have been the troublesome ones (delco starter, rather than nippondenso). I now know that I need to take my truck in for the radio replacement before it gets any worse. Thanks.
Does Toyota make fender flares for the 2007 Tundra DC? I had them on my 2001 Tundra, and they do protect the sides. The salesman at the dealership tells me they are avialable, but I can’t find them on the Toyota websites. I would like to see them before I pay $870.
I have an ‘08 Tundra dbl cab SR5 5.7l spending the night with me. Supposed to finish the deal tomorrow. I have already felt a vibration while accelerating smoothly at around 30 mph or so. I’m going to go over the entire truck with a fine tooth comb in the morning after reading many of the posts here.
I’m also wondering how long it’s going to take for other manufacturers to copy the Honda Ridgeline’s side opening tailgate/trunk area. My thanks to whomever is responsible for this forum, hopefully the dealer will have a few answers for me tomorrow and I’ll be the proud owner of a new Tundra.
The truck I’m trading in is an ‘03 F-150 Supercrew w/4.6l V-8. It has been the best truck of the 12 I’ve owned, it has 106,000 miles on it. I test drove an ‘08 F-150 Supercrew and really liked it, but the Tundra rides, and handles better to me, no doubt the resale will be considerably better down the road as well. Unfortunately I was terribly disappointed with my test drive of an ‘08 GMC crew cab SLE, I’ve owned more GM trucks than any other brand.
The biggest gripe about the Tundra I have thus far is getting in and out (I’m 6′4″) guess I’ll learn to tuck soon enough
Jim,
What a GREAT oppurtunity to take this Tundra home and sleep on it
Your doing your homework and getting your questions ready! My husband and I started out with an 07 Tundra double cab…it had many issues and I posted on here regarding them back Nov. 07.
We were upgraded up to an 08 tundra and WE LOVE IT!
No problems so far and we would NOT trade it in! Be LEARY of the 2007 and even consumer digest reccomends to stear clear of them as there are MANY issues with the 2007 Tundra’s and Toyota is NOT willing to do a recall. The Dealership NOT Toyota, Bought our 07 back and upgraded us into an 2008! Like I said We LOVE our Tundra!
Good Luck and happy Trucking!
Charles look at an XSP model. They have the flares.
Another observation. I have driven on concrete highways and have not noticed much bed bounce. I have a Line-X sprayed in bed liner, so that may be a factor in controlling the bed bounce.
I have a 2007 5.7 tundra with 12,000 on it and over the last week i have had a lot of blue and white smoke opon starting it.toyota says they can’t find anything wrong.I have changed the oil every 3000 miles at the dealership! any help.
i hate these comments about the toyota tundra. i want a UAW OR A CAW MADE TRUCK. buy a chevy or a ford. dont buy a ddoge use a lot of forien parts. there made by quality uaw workers. i want to support my UAW GM WORKERS FROM FORT WAYNE INDIANA,PONTIAC MICHIGAN,FLITN MICHIGAN AND THE CAW WORKERS FROM OSHUWA CANANDA. UAW AND CAW get better wages and better healthcare than a toyota worker. hey you ever heard of toyota overworking people in japan and those toyota workers were overstressed and then died. i want a truck made by workers who are treated good. SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL UAW AND CAW!!!!
Bob, You simply have too much time on your hands. Silly you come to a Toyota website and promote buying a failure product. You can have your unions. I’ve been there done that.
I bought an ‘07 Tundra within 3 weeks of their debut. I wanted one of the first in my area for business reasons. At 1000 miles I added a 3″ leveling kit and 305/55R20’s on Detata rims. I was a bit bummed about the lack of availability of aftermarket parts for a long bed (it took about 4 months to get an ARE topper), but they have finally caught up.
I traded my ‘05 GMC 2500 w/ a Duramax for the Tundra, due to the overwhelming problems with the Duramax (in the shop for 2 months after only 11 months after driving it off the lot). I absolutely LOVE my Tundra – Power, Ride, Asthetics, Interior, you name it! I occasionally tow a 26′ bumper-pull flat bed w/ 2 off-road rigs (FJ40 and a Samurai), with a combined weight of close to 11k lbs. I know, that is over the max capacity – of 10,200lbs for my long bed double cab, but as I said, occasionally, and I have added air bags to the rear, and a high quality trailer brake controller – and, the trailer has double axle brakes – and, I am VERY aware of safety issues, and drive accordingly.
I have only experienced one problem to date (33k miles) – Warped rotors! I know this was an issue on older Tundras, and I know some of you will think that because of what I tow, I am hard on them. Truthfully, I NEVER ride the brakes, I ALWAYS downshift when descending hills (towing or not), and I have had no “emergency braking” issues… so what gives??
Has anyone else experienced issues w/ Toyota’s new “big brakes for more stopping power”?
hey ford and gm dominate in sales see
Ford F-Series: 690,589
Chevy Silverado: 618,257
Dodge Ram: 358,295
GMC Sierra: 208,243
Toyota Tundra: 196,555
Nissan Titan: 65,746
if you combine gm sales we crush the competion. if the tundra came in a 3/4 and 1 ton they might pass gmc.
also i do know the tundra has 81% american parts. the silverado has 93% and the ford has 90% and the dodge 64% those are the 1/2 models.
let me tell you this mickey union is better. they are happy workers who can support there families with more money. they dont have to worry when they go to the hospital they have healthcare. toyota has crappy wages and benenfits. and do you remeber what japan did to fellow americans in ww2 they blew pearl harbor to bits.
John – Rotor warp is annoying. It’s usually caused by uneven heating and/or cooling. Sometimes that’s a function of poor metal quality (an uneven alloy “mix”), but mostly it’s a function of use. Heavy braking (like when towing) has been known to warp a set of rotors. I’m not saying that it’s acceptable for rotors to warp – after all the truck is designed to tow – but it’s pretty darn common. In my days of buying cars (I was a used car manager for a few years) I saw it quite a bit on just about every car model I bought. I guess what I’m trying to say is that you’re not doing anything wrong – at least not in my opinion. I think it’s par for the course. Still, if the “warpage” is severe, you might try upgrading to an after-market cross-drilled rotor that will dissipate heat. They’re not much more expensive than OEM rotors. Just wait until you need to replace the rotors (not for quite a while probably), then upgrade. My two cents.
Bob – Sales figures and your WW2 experience have nothing to do with quality. If unions are so great, explain to us why domestic quality was terrible in the 80’s (the UAW’s heyday). Explain why the UAW has gotten smaller every year if their product is so great. Finally, explain why you say “we crush the competition” – are you a GM employee?
Bob you ever work at Toyota? So how you know what they make? If they make less than UAW workers then that tells you you’re being overpaid. Also Bob working in the military gives you great medical coverage but nowhere near the pay you UAW workers get. WWII and Pearl Harbor well no need to go where you’re coming from. Stick with the present and not the past.
well i am a american. you guys can go and fly japan flags on your toyota tundra. i know i am a union paperworker and i know union is better!!!
Bob Swanson: True, GM sales more trucks than Ford, but sales are figured by make (Ford, Chevy, Toyota, Nissan, etc), so by individual brand, Ford still sells more. Now that’s not the reason for this post though.
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You are completly off on your American parts content. Check out the links provided below and you’ll notice the F150 (#1) has the most American parts content of any vehicle, Silverado (#8) falls well short of the 93% you’ve stated. Heck, even the Tundra (#5) has a higher american parts content than the Silverado. Silverado used to be #3, but has dropped. Those are the only 1/2 tons in the top 10 list of american parts content. Now in the 2nd link, the Silverado (85%) has a higher domestic parts content than the F150 (80%), both down from 90%, but the domestic parts content includes parts from Canada not solely American made parts. So you aren’t far off, but still here is the data to support these claims.
http://www.cars.com/go/advice/.....amMade0808
http://www.cars.com/go/advice/.....f=national
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Unions are both good and bad in my opinion. Unions have hurt the domestics a great deal in the last decade. This has also hurt many of the employees. With all the demands and high pay and health care the unions require, which is good for employees, this has also impacted the domestics bottom line, which has been part of the reason these manufacturers have cut jobs. I’m sure these laid off employees would take a pay cut or decreased health insurance coverage to keep their jobs, but the unions won’t allow it. Personally, I think unions have greatly helped the workers over the last couple decades, but they’ve run their course and either need to give up some of their power or for them to end completely. Just my thoughts.
Bob Swanson: per your last comment:
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So the Tundra being made soley in America by American workers is bad? Are you trying to say it’s better to have these people unemployed than working without a union? Whether they are union or not, who cares. This helps the employment rate and economy of the US no matter how you look at it. Seems there are many companies in the US today that do not have a union and their employees are treated well, have good health benefits and have good pay scale, hey sounds like my job and employer. This could turn into a heated conversation, but I’m neither for nor against unions. They have their place, but saying you’ll buy only items that are made by union workers is very narrow minded.
Justin great point… Agree with you.
Regarding the brakes: 33K miles and still smooth. No warped rotors here.
Thanks Mickey!
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Warped brakes can and will impact all makes/models. Sometimes it’s the vehicle design itself, the compounds used by the rotor manufacturer or sometimes it’s the driver. Of course at times it’s all three. Towing will lead to more warped rotors, especially here in CO, where going down many of these mountain passes require excessive use of the brake, no matter if you down shift or not. Getting a trailer brake for towing will decrease your chances of warped rotors and suggested for safety reasons alone. If you know how to replace rotors yourself, this is a simple and pretty cheap fix. You can usually upgrade your rotors for less than you’d pay for OEM through the dealer. Even though this may be a concern/problem for some, I don’t see it as a common problem area that Toyota must address just yet. Simply by the numbers I’ve seen so far, the rotor warp is random and inconsistent.
Jason – Thanks for the comments. I know what causes rotor warping, so I do what I can to avoid those actions. I haven’t changed my driving/towing style since my 3 GMC’s (‘99 and ‘02 1500’s and an ‘05 2500), all of which I towed with, and none of which suffered the same rotor problems, even though they did not have as large of brakes as my ‘07 Tundra. I regularly set my trailer brakes for the individual load, so the trailer handles most of it’s own braking, rather than relying on the truck to compensate for the extra weight.
I still believe that my Tundra is a superior vehicle, and although it handles my current towing requirements, I am anxiously awaiting Toyota’s deisel version. In the meantime, I will be replacing my rotors soon, and hopefully I will get more than another 30k miles from the new ones.
I have a 2007 Tundra crew max, I have no bed vibration,the 5.7 engine gets 23 miles per gallon with the cruise set at 70mph in a hilly terrain. I use synthedic oil only and the truck runs like a champ.
When I pull a trailer it uses more gas, but it pulls the boat great and handles outstanding, on boat ramps it does’t scip a beat never slips, sold my Ford truck and will never go back.
The amount of room and the comfort of the ride is outstanding, my only complaint is I don’t think Toyota puts the best tires on the new trucks, I will be replacing these tires at about 45,000 miles instead of 60,000 miles.
Great and thoughtful forum. I have a 2007 Tundra and recognize some of the problems brought out here. However, I didn’t find a reference to the scary combination of “drive by wire” and Toyota’s curious “limited-slip differential” (LSD). I found right away that if I wanted to accelerate quickly on anything loose, e.g. gravel or wet pavement, the truck just won’t go.
One day I was pulling out of a parking lot and didn’t notice the small car that was a bit too close. I floored the accelerator, the LSD system sensed slippage, and the truck just continued to ooze out into traffic. The other car missed. Since then I almost always hit the LSD defeat button right after startup. That of course raises the other specter of a powerful vehicle raising the inside wheel on a turn and spinning the tire. Tragically, I find myself using 4WD now and then just to make a turn on an uphill.
Interestingly, the Chevy P/U I rented before I got the Tundra had “2WD”, “4WD”, and “Auto” on the selector knob. “Auto” seemed to engage a viscous coupling in the transfer case and it acted like the AWD on an Eagle Talon I once owned.
Tom – Good point about the “auto lsd” system. It’s not actually an LSD – it’s an electronic system that applies the brakes on the wheel that’s spinning. It’s a cheaper way to add a LSD to a truck than actually installing a true hydraulic posi-traction type rear end.
Just finished the oil change to 0w20 Mobile 1 and the noise at cold start is nealy gone.
I checked more into the bed bounce and discovered that nearly all pickup owners (not just Tundra) report a flexing of the frame between the cab and box when driving on concrete highways with heaved or lifted expansion joints. Which creates the rocking and frame flex. As with my earlier post, I saw an F250 SD flexing like crazy the other day. On smooth concrete or pavement there is no problem. It seems to be an issue with the expansion joint condition and vehicle speed. Leave it to the DOT to approve roads built in moving sections!!!
As for the UAW fanboy. I want a $70-80 per hour job tightening lug nuts too! Toyota pays their employees a fair wage for the skill level of the job and sinks the rest into R&D, otherwise they would find new jobs…right?? The R&D shows, the first 5.7, double overhead cam, variable valve timing, 4 valve per cylinder engine matched to a very advanced 6 speed AT…If the Tundra wasnt such a great truck the ford, dodge and gm fanboys would not be on this site trying to defend their 1960’s technology trucks!!! Pushrod engines, give me a break. Oh yea, to the guy with the hemi…you bought the “hemi” marketing and all you saw were my tail lights!!!!!!
Brian: Most pickup owners (except maybe Ridgeline owners, but can you really call thay a pickup?) are aware of bed bounce on highway expansion joints. I’ve owned five trucks in my time and yes all have experienced this problem. The issue is that the Tundra experiences much more severe bed bounce that resonates through the cab much more than your typical truck, especially those that are ‘07 and newer models. So I agree with your overall point, but have to say that even my ‘80 150 or ‘85 Ranger never had as noticeable bed bounce as the Tundra has displayed. The 1st Gen. Tundra didn’t exhibit this much bounce.
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Now on the UAW point, do you really think just because they charge $70+ per hour that the worker ever gets half that? There is a lot of overhead costs that play into these costs. So I do agree that the UAW may be overpaying their employees, but not as drastically as you make it seem. So do you think the employees of Toyota in Japan that build the majority of their vehicles that are being under payed and overworked is okay, just because Toyota’s American employees are being compensated fairly? Always two sides to each story. So I’m not saying you’re right or wrong, just need to look at the whole picture.
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Sure R&D has helped Toyota develop a very strong motor and decently reliable transmission, other than the TC shudder, but what about the excessive bed bounce, tailgate issues, driveline issues on 4×4 models, and the other minor issues the Tundra has displayed? All manufacturers spend billions of dollars on R&D, not just Toyota. So be proud of Toyota and what they’ve accomplished, just don’t be blind to all the facts.
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Why do I or anyone need to defend the domestics? Sure some do, but I will point out the goods/bads of any make/model. The domestics produce just as quality built truck as Toyota does. I’m here trying to open peoples eyes that just because a truck has a powerful motor and nice transmission, doesn’t make it the best of the bunch. When was the last time Dodge led in sales or had the best truck due to their 5spd trans, prior to the release of the ‘07+ Tundra? When was the last time Dodge or Chevy led in truck sales due to having the most HP from their motor? The Tundra made some serious impacts in ‘07 with the Tundra, but you’ll also notice the sales are declining just as much as the domestics. You can complain about the technology of the domestics, but seems that Chevy still gets better mpgs and more sales out of a pushrod motor (5.3L) than the Tundra does with their newer technology. The Tundra is a really nice truck, don’t get me wrong, I defend it just as much as I defend the domestics. Do I consider it the best 1/2 ton on the market, in some aspects yes, in others not so much.
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Now keep in mind you’re comparing a Ram HEMI that debuted in ‘02. They’ve got a new model coming out for ‘09, with more hp and lb-ft than the Tundra. So depending on the drivetrain loss of the new Ram, you may just be seeing the tail lights of many Rams soon. But in all reality, who gives a dang about who’s quickest in a truck (I know there is a small # that desire this), but the majority of truck buyers want the best overall, most reliable truck, not just one that does 0-60 in 2 less seconds.
Brian, per my comment above in regards to the ‘09 Ram. Check out the reviews by MT. If you like 0-60 speed and people seeing your tail lights, looks like Dodge has brought some competition. And the Ram has a 5spd auto vs the Tundras 6spd auto. Would like to see the #’s put down my a Quad Cab and new Crew Cab model of the Ram HEMI though. Either way, don’t know if you’ll be running away from them anymore.
‘09 Ram Sport R/T
http://www.motortrend.com/road.....specs.html
‘08 Tundra
http://www.motortrend.com/ofth.....table.html
One last point, the ‘09 Ram had a shorter stopping distance than the Tundra, with 13.2 front/13.8 back brakes.
“Although essentially carryover technology from the previous gen, the stopping distance from 60 mph was a respectable 135 feet-10 feet shorter than a comparably equipped Tundra.”
Looks like Dodge is upping the bar.
http://www.motortrend.com/road.....index.html
HEY HAS ANYONE HAD ANY MORE PROBLEMS WITH THERE TUNDRA, I HAVE A 07 5.7 CREWMAX..I HAD THE TORQUE CONV. AND A OIL LEAK FIXED ON MY TRUCK ..AND I MIGHT HAVE TO TAKE IT BACK FOR THE SHIFTING ON THE TRANSMISSION IS NOT SHIFTING SMOOTH..
Anyone have the Toyota Brand tube steps? This afternoon I backed up through a small grassy ditch to hook up a trailer and the tube step rubbed ground. The step has four brackets that are bolted to the body. The brackets bent and let the step move up to hit the body, causing a small bend. So I took the step off, and found you can bend the brackets back into place with your hand. I takes very little force. That is disappointing to have such a weak, cheaply made step with Toyota’s name on it. If I didn’t have the steps, then nothing on the truck would have touched the ground. So look out if you have the steps and go over a hump in the ground. I plan to either leave them off or go on line and try to find some like the nerf bars on my jeep. The ones on my 2001 Tundra were much better made, and survived contact with the ground and mud. I wouldn’t want these on a 2WD much less a 4WD like mine.
In the last couple of months I have experienced a shutter of sorts in my 07 CM Ltd 4×4. The shutter isn’t nearly as pronounced as some are experiencing; I am not experiencing the “rumble strip” feeling at all. When I am casually excellerating from a dead stop, (stop sign, stop light) my truck will make it’s initial forward movement and then I will feel a thud (not violent, just an attention getter) and thats the end. From the time I start excellerating to the time of the thud is only about a second maybe two seconds no more. When I first became concerned I thought about it a bit and judging from what I felt, I thought it was the torque converter or the brakes were not calibrated (thought maybe the rear brakes were releasing slightly later than the front brakes ). Now I get online and see all of this torque converter crap. What should I do? I guess I could take it in and “get it fixed”, but I’ve read about people getting their trucks serviced and getting them back with the same problem or worse. Has toyota come out with a solid fix, or are they not sure how to fix it yet? Let me know what you think, but I’m prolly just going to live with it until I hear that toyota has it figured out….I’m pretty upset about this.