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		<title>By: Mickey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Victor the fix for that I seen was putting a clamp on the side that can be removed so it never happens again. Personally I never had anything like that happen to mine. When I get a load of wood on my Crewmax I strap down the wood with tie straps. I even strap anything that&#039;s on the tailgate to the tailgate so it won&#039;t move at all. Sorry to see that happen to you. I have 72,000 miles on my 07 CM Limited. As you can see I do alot of driving. Got it in July 07. I did have 4 issues I had to fix on the truck which 3 of them was caused by me and the other caused by some fool hitting my pass mirror and breaking the gear in it so it wouldn&#039;t auto close. The other 3 were replaced center console cover which wouldn&#039;t stay closed and was fixed in 10 minutes. Replaced two studs on the driver rear thanks to me leaving some tape on the studs after painting the rotors. They even replaced my lock set at no charge. Replaced gas cap since I had a locking gas cap which I forgot to close and the check engine light came on and they didn&#039;t charge for diagnostics. Minor things So I can&#039;t complain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Victor the fix for that I seen was putting a clamp on the side that can be removed so it never happens again. Personally I never had anything like that happen to mine. When I get a load of wood on my Crewmax I strap down the wood with tie straps. I even strap anything that&#8217;s on the tailgate to the tailgate so it won&#8217;t move at all. Sorry to see that happen to you. I have 72,000 miles on my 07 CM Limited. As you can see I do alot of driving. Got it in July 07. I did have 4 issues I had to fix on the truck which 3 of them was caused by me and the other caused by some fool hitting my pass mirror and breaking the gear in it so it wouldn&#8217;t auto close. The other 3 were replaced center console cover which wouldn&#8217;t stay closed and was fixed in 10 minutes. Replaced two studs on the driver rear thanks to me leaving some tape on the studs after painting the rotors. They even replaced my lock set at no charge. Replaced gas cap since I had a locking gas cap which I forgot to close and the check engine light came on and they didn&#8217;t charge for diagnostics. Minor things So I can&#8217;t complain.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor Garfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victor Garfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really surprised to find another person with the tailgate problem. This just happened to me yesterday, while driving my Son-in-laws Tundra Crewmax. It&#039;s a beautiful truck. But, I too left the tailgate down! And, sure enough, off it came, and had it not been for the two cables, it would have caused some serious damage! I even had a load in the bed of the truck. What&#039;s worse I don&#039;t remember hitting any real bumps, other than coming out of the grocery store parking lot onto one of the main streets? A few different people flagged me down. I now need to buy a new tailgate for him. It sustained two small corner lip dents. I&#039;m sure I could just have it repaired at a body shop, but it&#039;s a &#039;08, with only 8,000 miles on it. He doesn&#039;t drive it much, but, I hate the thought of getting body work done on a new vehicle. Anyone have a white tailgate they would like to sell???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really surprised to find another person with the tailgate problem. This just happened to me yesterday, while driving my Son-in-laws Tundra Crewmax. It&#8217;s a beautiful truck. But, I too left the tailgate down! And, sure enough, off it came, and had it not been for the two cables, it would have caused some serious damage! I even had a load in the bed of the truck. What&#8217;s worse I don&#8217;t remember hitting any real bumps, other than coming out of the grocery store parking lot onto one of the main streets? A few different people flagged me down. I now need to buy a new tailgate for him. It sustained two small corner lip dents. I&#8217;m sure I could just have it repaired at a body shop, but it&#8217;s a &#8216;08, with only 8,000 miles on it. He doesn&#8217;t drive it much, but, I hate the thought of getting body work done on a new vehicle. Anyone have a white tailgate they would like to sell???</p>
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		<title>By: admin (Jason)</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin (Jason)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 02:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon - I don&#039;t think you need to do anything special, but it can&#039;t hurt to put a piece of plywood on top of the tailgate while loading. Prudence is the better part of valor, right? :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon &#8211; I don&#8217;t think you need to do anything special, but it can&#8217;t hurt to put a piece of plywood on top of the tailgate while loading. Prudence is the better part of valor, right? <img src='http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jon Byrom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Byrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 21:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mickey,

Thanks for the note; I know Toyota is tough as nails, and I noticed in another forum that noted that Toyota will fix or replace such damaged tailgates.  I figure since my Rancher ATV is only 600 lbs and I&#039;m using good atv ramps that it shouldn&#039;t really be much of a problem.  This is my first Pick-up Truck and maybe I&#039;m being a bit sheepish in getting things done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mickey,</p>
<p>Thanks for the note; I know Toyota is tough as nails, and I noticed in another forum that noted that Toyota will fix or replace such damaged tailgates.  I figure since my Rancher ATV is only 600 lbs and I&#8217;m using good atv ramps that it shouldn&#8217;t really be much of a problem.  This is my first Pick-up Truck and maybe I&#8217;m being a bit sheepish in getting things done.</p>
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		<title>By: Mickey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 21:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon I never had an issue with the tailgate. I use it also to ride up ramps for my riding lawn mower. I change blades oil etc while on the ramps. I used the ramps also to when I moved and loaded by dolley everything I had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon I never had an issue with the tailgate. I use it also to ride up ramps for my riding lawn mower. I change blades oil etc while on the ramps. I used the ramps also to when I moved and loaded by dolley everything I had.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 20:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shame on you for lying about Toyota.  Anyone who says their tailgate breaks is a shill for Ford and Chevy.  DO NOT LISTEN TO THEM.  THEY DO NOT REALLY OWN TOYOTAS!!!

Toyotas are perfect in every way!!!  DO NOT BELIEVE THE LIES!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame on you for lying about Toyota.  Anyone who says their tailgate breaks is a shill for Ford and Chevy.  DO NOT LISTEN TO THEM.  THEY DO NOT REALLY OWN TOYOTAS!!!</p>
<p>Toyotas are perfect in every way!!!  DO NOT BELIEVE THE LIES!</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Byrom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Byrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 19:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, I&#039;m confused and concerned (about 50-50).  I bought a 2008 Tundra Crewmax Tundra grade about two months ago.  I plan to load my Honda Rancher ATV (600 lbs) for when I go hunting or take family to ride trails.  I have a Rhino Liner equivalent sprayed on.    Am I likely to buckle my tailgate when loading my ATV?  Should I consider putting a plywood or steel plate, measured to fit the surface of the tailgate, over the tailgate to help spread the weight more evenly, before I try to load my ATV?  Would it be appropriate to consider having an aluminum plate as such bolted to the inner surface of the tailgate to improve it&#039;s strength to avoid buckling?  Any advice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, I&#8217;m confused and concerned (about 50-50).  I bought a 2008 Tundra Crewmax Tundra grade about two months ago.  I plan to load my Honda Rancher ATV (600 lbs) for when I go hunting or take family to ride trails.  I have a Rhino Liner equivalent sprayed on.    Am I likely to buckle my tailgate when loading my ATV?  Should I consider putting a plywood or steel plate, measured to fit the surface of the tailgate, over the tailgate to help spread the weight more evenly, before I try to load my ATV?  Would it be appropriate to consider having an aluminum plate as such bolted to the inner surface of the tailgate to improve it&#8217;s strength to avoid buckling?  Any advice?</p>
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		<title>By: Whats up with GM - VFRworld</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whats up with GM - VFRworld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] them in the future. The Tundra is the first vehicle that Toyota is giving huge discounts on.  5) Tundra Design Flaw: NEVER Drive Your Tundra Tailgate Down! &#124; tundraheadquarters.com Toyota Tundra Tailgate Internal Memo &#124; tundraheadquarters.com These are from a Toyota Blog so I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] them in the future. The Tundra is the first vehicle that Toyota is giving huge discounts on.  5) Tundra Design Flaw: NEVER Drive Your Tundra Tailgate Down! | tundraheadquarters.com Toyota Tundra Tailgate Internal Memo | tundraheadquarters.com These are from a Toyota Blog so I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mickey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin you enjoy that Tundra. Glad you got a great deal. Wish I did, but back in July 07 I got what I could get at the time. 07 Crewmax Limited in Nautical Blue. You look in the featured vehicles you&#039;ll see mine. I have 35,000 miles and doing fine. I can get anywhere from 17-24mpg depending on how fast I go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin you enjoy that Tundra. Glad you got a great deal. Wish I did, but back in July 07 I got what I could get at the time. 07 Crewmax Limited in Nautical Blue. You look in the featured vehicles you&#8217;ll see mine. I have 35,000 miles and doing fine. I can get anywhere from 17-24mpg depending on how fast I go.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just bought a 07 tundra dc 4x4 w/ the 5.7 liter v8, in dash nav. system, jbl sound package, and backup camera, trading in my 06 chevy colorado crew cab Z71. 

I liked the colorado just fine at first, but started having lifter knock after only 3000 miles (it had 114 when I drove it off the lot). Not long after this, a new issue reared it&#039;s ugly head. When attemping to start my truck(@ a cold start or after driving home 45 min. from work), it would crank more rapidly than normal and fail to turn over. I tried checking every fuse and relay under the hood with no avail. Then, after about 30 minutes, you could blow on the key and it would crank right up. AARRGGHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I went over every fuse, relay, module, starter solenoid, you name it, they tested a o.k.

I tried to bring it back to the chevy dealership to be checked out, but of course it never acts up when you&#039;re there. Everything checked out clear and no codes popped up. They tried to sell me on a computer module (not covered under warranty anymore). 

I decided to look @ upgrading to a silverado, but quickly changed my mind after finding I&#039;d be 4k in the hole because they would only give me 13k for my trade. Granted the colorado did have 40k miles on it, but I took it for all it&#039;s maintenance @ the dealership as sheduled. I took such good care of it and this is how it works out? It was all I needed to decide my next move.

A month or so later I stopped by the toyota dealership w/ the wife and checked out the tundras. I was impressed with toyota after I bought her an fj cruiser late last year and figured what the hell, why not check &#039;em out. They treated us way better than any other dealership I&#039;ve ever been to. After test driving the tundra, I had to bite my lip to keep from grinning. 

After getting down to brass tacks with the salesman, they made me an offer to pay off the colorado, and give us the 10k off rebate with another toyota loyalty  rebate. The price was great! After haggling the monthly payments down below what I was paying for the chevy, I sealed the deal and haven&#039;t regretted the decision. Granted the gas mileage is drastically lower going from a 3.5L inline 5 cylinder to a 381hp 5.7L V8, but it&#039;s a small price to pay for being satisfied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just bought a 07 tundra dc 4&#215;4 w/ the 5.7 liter v8, in dash nav. system, jbl sound package, and backup camera, trading in my 06 chevy colorado crew cab Z71. </p>
<p>I liked the colorado just fine at first, but started having lifter knock after only 3000 miles (it had 114 when I drove it off the lot). Not long after this, a new issue reared it&#8217;s ugly head. When attemping to start my truck(@ a cold start or after driving home 45 min. from work), it would crank more rapidly than normal and fail to turn over. I tried checking every fuse and relay under the hood with no avail. Then, after about 30 minutes, you could blow on the key and it would crank right up. AARRGGHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I went over every fuse, relay, module, starter solenoid, you name it, they tested a o.k.</p>
<p>I tried to bring it back to the chevy dealership to be checked out, but of course it never acts up when you&#8217;re there. Everything checked out clear and no codes popped up. They tried to sell me on a computer module (not covered under warranty anymore). </p>
<p>I decided to look @ upgrading to a silverado, but quickly changed my mind after finding I&#8217;d be 4k in the hole because they would only give me 13k for my trade. Granted the colorado did have 40k miles on it, but I took it for all it&#8217;s maintenance @ the dealership as sheduled. I took such good care of it and this is how it works out? It was all I needed to decide my next move.</p>
<p>A month or so later I stopped by the toyota dealership w/ the wife and checked out the tundras. I was impressed with toyota after I bought her an fj cruiser late last year and figured what the hell, why not check &#8216;em out. They treated us way better than any other dealership I&#8217;ve ever been to. After test driving the tundra, I had to bite my lip to keep from grinning. </p>
<p>After getting down to brass tacks with the salesman, they made me an offer to pay off the colorado, and give us the 10k off rebate with another toyota loyalty  rebate. The price was great! After haggling the monthly payments down below what I was paying for the chevy, I sealed the deal and haven&#8217;t regretted the decision. Granted the gas mileage is drastically lower going from a 3.5L inline 5 cylinder to a 381hp 5.7L V8, but it&#8217;s a small price to pay for being satisfied.</p>
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