Comments on: Toyota Tundra Fuel Gauge Questions http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/10/23/toyota-tundra-fuel-gauge-questions/ Toyota Tundra News, Reviews, Accessories, and Information Sun, 14 Mar 2010 12:21:48 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: John http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/10/23/toyota-tundra-fuel-gauge-questions/#comment-10302 John Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:35:05 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/10/23/toyota-tundra-fuel-gauge-questions/#comment-10302 I purchased a new 2012 5.7L Tundra Double cab after trading in my 2006 Tacoma, mainly for more HP/torque when pulling my RV. I have noticed that the most fuel that I can put in when the gauge reads "E" (on the line) is 20 gallons. The idiot "info" reading on the dash says "0 miles remaining". I fully appreciate having a reserve but this is ridiculous. Looking back through this blog , it looks like this problem has existed for a long time...Any other 2010's care to comment?...John in NC I purchased a new 2012 5.7L Tundra Double cab after trading in my 2006 Tacoma, mainly for more HP/torque when pulling my RV. I have noticed that the most fuel that I can put in when the gauge reads “E” (on the line) is 20 gallons. The idiot “info” reading on the dash says “0 miles remaining”. I fully appreciate having a reserve but this is ridiculous. Looking back through this blog , it looks like this problem has existed for a long time…Any other 2010’s care to comment?…John in NC

]]> By: Mickey http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/10/23/toyota-tundra-fuel-gauge-questions/#comment-9138 Mickey Thu, 01 Oct 2009 23:20:14 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/10/23/toyota-tundra-fuel-gauge-questions/#comment-9138 Bob what was the new Tundra built for???? Towing....That's why you have a larger reserve for those who are towing. Bob what was the new Tundra built for???? Towing….That’s why you have a larger reserve for those who are towing.

]]> By: Admin (Jason) http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/10/23/toyota-tundra-fuel-gauge-questions/#comment-9134 Admin (Jason) Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:47:37 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/10/23/toyota-tundra-fuel-gauge-questions/#comment-9134 Bob - I understand where you're coming from. Not to be argumentative, but a 23% error is pretty much the norm in the realm of compact cars. With 12-14 gallon tanks and 2 or 3 gallons of reserve, the error can exceed 25% on some models. I agree that Toyota took a shortcut here (why not make a fuel gauge that reads with higher accuracy?), but I think that most people manage to adjust. It's not perfect, but it's definitely workable. If you make any headway with the dealer, please post that news here. There are a lot of people that would like to get this handled. *** In an unrelated note, how do you feel about the floor mat recall? Some people say that it's just an issue of personal responsibility and that Toyota shouldn't be held accountable for people that don't know how to use a floormat correctly. I think the same argument could be made about the not-quite-accurate fuel gauge argument. Is it *really* a problem, or is it our expectation that things should be 100% perfect that's the problem? Bob – I understand where you’re coming from. Not to be argumentative, but a 23% error is pretty much the norm in the realm of compact cars. With 12-14 gallon tanks and 2 or 3 gallons of reserve, the error can exceed 25% on some models. I agree that Toyota took a shortcut here (why not make a fuel gauge that reads with higher accuracy?), but I think that most people manage to adjust. It’s not perfect, but it’s definitely workable. If you make any headway with the dealer, please post that news here. There are a lot of people that would like to get this handled.
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In an unrelated note, how do you feel about the floor mat recall? Some people say that it’s just an issue of personal responsibility and that Toyota shouldn’t be held accountable for people that don’t know how to use a floormat correctly. I think the same argument could be made about the not-quite-accurate fuel gauge argument. Is it *really* a problem, or is it our expectation that things should be 100% perfect that’s the problem?

]]> By: Bob Dalton http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/10/23/toyota-tundra-fuel-gauge-questions/#comment-9131 Bob Dalton Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:03:12 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/10/23/toyota-tundra-fuel-gauge-questions/#comment-9131 I owned a 20004 Tundra 4x4 that has a perfectly accurate fuel gauge across the full range of travel. In 2007 I upraded to the 2007 2x4, and the fuel gage is off over 23%. I'm one of those with 6-gallons missing, which at 14.7 mpg, equates to a loss of 88.2 miles in range. With this kind of inaccuracy, the fuel gauge is completely useless and I can never rely on it. Instead, I must use my tripmeter A setting (I use the B setting to track oil changes). I know that with a 26 gallon tank, and an engine that gets 14.7 mpg, my total range should be 382.2 miles. Instead I approach "E" at about 250 miles (gas light comes on), and must find a gas station immediately rather than dare the gauge to always be wrong and risk being stranded. Of course, fill up is about 16-17 gallons, and I shake my head in disgust at the poor quality of my beloved truck's fuel gauge. I expect so much more from Toyota than the shoddy material workmanship I received. I have kept a log of every fill for the last 12,000 miles after I noticed the error (now have 15,000 on truck), and intend to take it back to Toyota as a warranty repair very soon. I just hope the service counter rep understands the math. A 23% (6 gallon) error is completely unaccptable, and I think anyone is foolish to accept it as normal. I understand the science of the article, and could accpt maybe a 5% (1.3 gallon) error. However, loss of a full quarter of performance is way outside the acceptable error mark. I owned a 20004 Tundra 4×4 that has a perfectly accurate fuel gauge across the full range of travel.

In 2007 I upraded to the 2007 2×4, and the fuel gage is off over 23%. I’m one of those with 6-gallons missing, which at 14.7 mpg, equates to a loss of 88.2 miles in range. With this kind of inaccuracy, the fuel gauge is completely useless and I can never rely on it. Instead, I must use my tripmeter A setting (I use the B setting to track oil changes). I know that with a 26 gallon tank, and an engine that gets 14.7 mpg, my total range should be 382.2 miles. Instead I approach “E” at about 250 miles (gas light comes on), and must find a gas station immediately rather than dare the gauge to always be wrong and risk being stranded. Of course, fill up is about 16-17 gallons, and I shake my head in disgust at the poor quality of my beloved truck’s fuel gauge. I expect so much more from Toyota than the shoddy material workmanship I received.

I have kept a log of every fill for the last 12,000 miles after I noticed the error (now have 15,000 on truck), and intend to take it back to Toyota as a warranty repair very soon. I just hope the service counter rep understands the math.

A 23% (6 gallon) error is completely unaccptable, and I think anyone is foolish to accept it as normal. I understand the science of the article, and could accpt maybe a 5% (1.3 gallon) error. However, loss of a full quarter of performance is way outside the acceptable error mark.

]]> By: rick http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/10/23/toyota-tundra-fuel-gauge-questions/#comment-8589 rick Sun, 23 Aug 2009 07:57:12 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/10/23/toyota-tundra-fuel-gauge-questions/#comment-8589 Hello everyone, new 07 tundra trd crewmax owner here since May 09. First thing I noticed was the gauge, forget who said it but ya, its just simple math at the pump and when light came on, approx 6 gallons left in tank. I questioned the tank size a few times but kept reading 26 gallons so guess it is. In regards to the question about DTE gauge (not sure what DTE stands for exactly, I'm new to the electronic gauges, but I'm assuming its my digital readout on my dash(sorry if I'm wrong)). Not sure if anyone realized but from what I can figure out ( again w/ the math) the DTE rates your last fill up, not gauges your tank completly. So if you filled 20 gallons ( for math sake) and you are getting 14 mpg (per ur DTE gauge) then your total miles on ur DTE will read 280miles left on your tank even though the E light will come on again at 6 gallons left. I am not complaining nor fighting it. But just my 2 cents, could be wrong, but just what I've figured out. Also yes your avg mpg via DTE will also show based off the math of last fill up and obviously changes with driving habits. Thanks for listening Rick Hello everyone, new 07 tundra trd crewmax owner here since May 09. First thing I noticed was the gauge, forget who said it but ya, its just simple math at the pump and when light came on, approx 6 gallons left in tank. I questioned the tank size a few times but kept reading 26 gallons so guess it is.

In regards to the question about DTE gauge (not sure what DTE stands for exactly, I’m new to the electronic gauges, but I’m assuming its my digital readout on my dash(sorry if I’m wrong)). Not sure if anyone realized but from what I can figure out ( again w/ the math) the DTE rates your last fill up, not gauges your tank completly. So if you filled 20 gallons ( for math sake) and you are getting 14 mpg (per ur DTE gauge) then your total miles on ur DTE will read 280miles left on your tank even though the E light will come on again at 6 gallons left. I am not complaining nor fighting it. But just my 2 cents, could be wrong, but just what I’ve figured out. Also yes your avg mpg via DTE will also show based off the math of last fill up and obviously changes with driving habits.

Thanks for listening
Rick

]]> By: admin (Jason) http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/10/23/toyota-tundra-fuel-gauge-questions/#comment-8416 admin (Jason) Sun, 16 Aug 2009 20:43:18 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/10/23/toyota-tundra-fuel-gauge-questions/#comment-8416 Cowboys - Why not? I see a lot of cowboys driving beat up old cars at the National Western because they're too broke to buy anything else. For a lot of die-hard rodeo'ers, I think a new Tundra would be a big upgrade! :-) Cowboys – Why not? I see a lot of cowboys driving beat up old cars at the National Western because they’re too broke to buy anything else. For a lot of die-hard rodeo’ers, I think a new Tundra would be a big upgrade! :-)

]]> By: CowboysLoveTheirTrucks http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/10/23/toyota-tundra-fuel-gauge-questions/#comment-8407 CowboysLoveTheirTrucks Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:58:12 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/10/23/toyota-tundra-fuel-gauge-questions/#comment-8407 Should a cowboy drive up to a Rodeo in a tundra? Should a cowboy drive up to a Rodeo in a tundra?

]]> By: Mickey http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/10/23/toyota-tundra-fuel-gauge-questions/#comment-8163 Mickey Tue, 04 Aug 2009 20:17:39 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/10/23/toyota-tundra-fuel-gauge-questions/#comment-8163 If all else fails take it to the shop. You're under warranty. I had my truck in the shop 4x. 3 out of the 4 were simple fixes the 4th took a little longer. I know all my service advisers and 3 of them know me and the wife by name. I think it's great they know your name in the begining it makes the conversation easier. They know us because I have all maintenance done on both 07's we have at the dealers. This way they know exactly what was done and what is needed. Not to mention when you're at the end of a warranty or a non warranty issue they take care of it for you. Meaning my wife took the truck in for a check engine light. I knew I forgot to tightened the gas cap, but anyway took it to be checked just in case. They didn't charge us for diagnostics and replaced the cap. The advisor stated we are loyal customers and they want to keep our business so no charge. Except for the current 07 Prius we have every other new vehicle I had been in the shop for an issue. As little as 2 to as much as 24. It does happen. Let us know how it goes. Happy trucking with the V6. Hope you're getting great mpg's I'm avg 20-22 mpg's with my 5.7. I do have 64,700 miles on my 07. I do travel quite a bit. If all else fails take it to the shop. You’re under warranty. I had my truck in the shop 4x. 3 out of the 4 were simple fixes the 4th took a little longer. I know all my service advisers and 3 of them know me and the wife by name. I think it’s great they know your name in the begining it makes the conversation easier. They know us because I have all maintenance done on both 07’s we have at the dealers. This way they know exactly what was done and what is needed. Not to mention when you’re at the end of a warranty or a non warranty issue they take care of it for you. Meaning my wife took the truck in for a check engine light. I knew I forgot to tightened the gas cap, but anyway took it to be checked just in case. They didn’t charge us for diagnostics and replaced the cap. The advisor stated we are loyal customers and they want to keep our business so no charge. Except for the current 07 Prius we have every other new vehicle I had been in the shop for an issue. As little as 2 to as much as 24. It does happen. Let us know how it goes. Happy trucking with the V6. Hope you’re getting great mpg’s I’m avg 20-22 mpg’s with my 5.7. I do have 64,700 miles on my 07. I do travel quite a bit.

]]> By: admin (Jason) http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/10/23/toyota-tundra-fuel-gauge-questions/#comment-8155 admin (Jason) Tue, 04 Aug 2009 17:19:32 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/10/23/toyota-tundra-fuel-gauge-questions/#comment-8155 Jerry - Sounds like a bad sending unit. Like anything electronic, they can fail at random times for no apparent reason. It could also be that the float is stuck. If you've got some gunk in the tank and you don't drive it much, that could be all it is. Take it down a bumpy road and see what happens... Jerry – Sounds like a bad sending unit. Like anything electronic, they can fail at random times for no apparent reason. It could also be that the float is stuck. If you’ve got some gunk in the tank and you don’t drive it much, that could be all it is. Take it down a bumpy road and see what happens…

]]> By: jerry schwartz http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/10/23/toyota-tundra-fuel-gauge-questions/#comment-8144 jerry schwartz Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:01:20 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/10/23/toyota-tundra-fuel-gauge-questions/#comment-8144 Hello everybody,im new to this,but i have a ? none the less.I purchased my tundra in july of 08.I have the 6 cylinder tundra,love the truck.I drove the truck,below the E mark and parked it.I drive it only on wkends.The following wkend i filled the truck up,my gauge still reads below E,and the dummy light is still lit up.This truck has less than 17,000 miles on it and its just a year old.Whats the deal here?This truck is brand new and im already having issues? Hello everybody,im new to this,but i have a ? none the less.I purchased my tundra in july of 08.I have the 6 cylinder tundra,love the truck.I drove the truck,below the E mark and parked it.I drive it only on wkends.The following wkend i filled the truck up,my gauge still reads below E,and the dummy light is still lit up.This truck has less than 17,000 miles on it and its just a year old.Whats the deal here?This truck is brand new and im already having issues?

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