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	<title>Comments on: Tundra vs Sierra-Silverado Part Three: Ride, Handling, and Comfort</title>
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		<title>By: Mickey</title>
		<link>http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2008/02/18/tundra-vs-sierra-silverado-part-three-ride-handling-and-comfort/#comment-5202</link>
		<dc:creator>Mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here you go GM lovers.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081208/us_nm/us_gm_ad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here you go GM lovers.<br />
<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081208/us_nm/us_gm_ad" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081208/us_nm/us_gm_ad</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mickey</title>
		<link>http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2008/02/18/tundra-vs-sierra-silverado-part-three-ride-handling-and-comfort/#comment-3806</link>
		<dc:creator>Mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 01:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew B/S on your 300,000 miles. Especially on 3 trucks! Why get another? Andrew did you tell the silverado club you're buying another? The question is why they won't let you discuss any problems you may have on a silverado there? Ohh BTW how's your safety in that truck? Ohh Not rated... Sorry if you get in an accident. Consumer Reports didn't test your vehicle like it did the others. I have that issue. Also CR is only one organization out of many out there. I can say Motor Trend too. Hexmate old news guy and for everyone out there read the article. Toyota didn't back Tforce Motorsport. So they went somewhere else for support. This was a smart move on that team to do coverage for their vehicle. Now WHO is IRONMAN MIKE? Need I say more Hexmate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew B/S on your 300,000 miles. Especially on 3 trucks! Why get another? Andrew did you tell the silverado club you&#8217;re buying another? The question is why they won&#8217;t let you discuss any problems you may have on a silverado there? Ohh BTW how&#8217;s your safety in that truck? Ohh Not rated&#8230; Sorry if you get in an accident. Consumer Reports didn&#8217;t test your vehicle like it did the others. I have that issue. Also CR is only one organization out of many out there. I can say Motor Trend too. Hexmate old news guy and for everyone out there read the article. Toyota didn&#8217;t back Tforce Motorsport. So they went somewhere else for support. This was a smart move on that team to do coverage for their vehicle. Now WHO is IRONMAN MIKE? Need I say more Hexmate?</p>
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		<title>By: Hexmate</title>
		<link>http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2008/02/18/tundra-vs-sierra-silverado-part-three-ride-handling-and-comfort/#comment-3799</link>
		<dc:creator>Hexmate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well looky here!  The famous Baja 500 begins today in Ensenada, CA, and one of the more interesting dirt racers discovered by our friend Mike Levine at Pickuptrucks.com is the Tundra D-Cab PreRunner from TForce Motorsports. It looks good, has ridiculously huge King off-road racing shocks, and it's owned by former Indy 500 champ Danny Sullivan, but that's not what makes this rally racer unique. Power for the PreRunner comes from none other than GM's LS2 small-block. TForce crew member Matt Riggle told Levine that the team chose the 375-hp, 400 lb-ft powerplant because of its reliability, as well as its ability to run on regular Pemex gas that's much cheaper than facing fuel.

For the record, Toyota does not sponsor team TForce or its hopped-up PreRunner, but you can imagine that choosing a GM engine over one by Toyota because of reliability isn't exactly what the folks in Aichi, Japan like hearing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well looky here!  The famous Baja 500 begins today in Ensenada, CA, and one of the more interesting dirt racers discovered by our friend Mike Levine at Pickuptrucks.com is the Tundra D-Cab PreRunner from TForce Motorsports. It looks good, has ridiculously huge King off-road racing shocks, and it&#8217;s owned by former Indy 500 champ Danny Sullivan, but that&#8217;s not what makes this rally racer unique. Power for the PreRunner comes from none other than GM&#8217;s LS2 small-block. TForce crew member Matt Riggle told Levine that the team chose the 375-hp, 400 lb-ft powerplant because of its reliability, as well as its ability to run on regular Pemex gas that&#8217;s much cheaper than facing fuel.</p>
<p>For the record, Toyota does not sponsor team TForce or its hopped-up PreRunner, but you can imagine that choosing a GM engine over one by Toyota because of reliability isn&#8217;t exactly what the folks in Aichi, Japan like hearing.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I forgot to mention, Consumer Reports gave the Chevy a best buy, they would not even recommend the TuRD due to the fact the Toyota had Too many issue to recommend. Chevy Rules again, as well as the North American Truck of the Year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I forgot to mention, Consumer Reports gave the Chevy a best buy, they would not even recommend the TuRD due to the fact the Toyota had Too many issue to recommend. Chevy Rules again, as well as the North American Truck of the Year!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am still happy that I bought a Chevrolet Silverado Z-71, almost 300,000 miles on this one and this would be my 3rd Chevrolet Truck with similar miles. Fuel pump at 100,000 other then that nothing. I will buy another one when they offer the Diesel option in the 1/2 ton. Chevy Rocks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still happy that I bought a Chevrolet Silverado Z-71, almost 300,000 miles on this one and this would be my 3rd Chevrolet Truck with similar miles. Fuel pump at 100,000 other then that nothing. I will buy another one when they offer the Diesel option in the 1/2 ton. Chevy Rocks!</p>
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		<title>By: Hexmate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hexmate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Admin – Thanks for your comments!  I have no idea what you are talking about when you say I’m “trolling” because I have no need to catch a troll, but if the shoe fits wear it.  You may drive trucks but which trucks, how many miles, under what circumstances and in what environment?  No data just innuendo.  You are biased and that is exactly the way your story is written and presented as if it is totally factual.  It is self-serving and obviously so.  I have pointed out numerous problems with the Tundra to which you danced around as “little,” or “small,” or not very “significant”, or “we don’t know big the problem is.”  I’m a crawfish?  That must make you the king of the flip-flop!  I told you, you should run for political office.  Your comparison is simply based on some statistical comparison and nothing else, “pass – fail” you called it, but that is a very myopic and subjective comparison.  We already know people don’t buy those vehicles on that basis alone.  C&#38;D might be wrong - but you of course, you are infallible based on your comments yet you have no experience, no credentials, no qualifications to make the statements you have made.  You took plenty of cheap shots along the way that you seem to have developed some state of amnesia about, but you want to convey that you were gracious toward the GM products.  Your characterization of my behavior is rather interesting, if you read what you wrote I think you just turned the tables on yourself.  You have an engineering degree but you are not an automotive engineer.  You are a mechanic and salesman?  So this is a marketing ploy!  Glad you chose to expose it for what it is.  You wrote it and put it out there on the web so if you weren’t prepared for any criticism than you shouldn’t have put it on the web.  If you can’t take it don’t dish it out.  It makes you look like a shill for Toyota!  Thanks for sharing and have great day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Admin – Thanks for your comments!  I have no idea what you are talking about when you say I’m “trolling” because I have no need to catch a troll, but if the shoe fits wear it.  You may drive trucks but which trucks, how many miles, under what circumstances and in what environment?  No data just innuendo.  You are biased and that is exactly the way your story is written and presented as if it is totally factual.  It is self-serving and obviously so.  I have pointed out numerous problems with the Tundra to which you danced around as “little,” or “small,” or not very “significant”, or “we don’t know big the problem is.”  I’m a crawfish?  That must make you the king of the flip-flop!  I told you, you should run for political office.  Your comparison is simply based on some statistical comparison and nothing else, “pass – fail” you called it, but that is a very myopic and subjective comparison.  We already know people don’t buy those vehicles on that basis alone.  C&amp;D might be wrong - but you of course, you are infallible based on your comments yet you have no experience, no credentials, no qualifications to make the statements you have made.  You took plenty of cheap shots along the way that you seem to have developed some state of amnesia about, but you want to convey that you were gracious toward the GM products.  Your characterization of my behavior is rather interesting, if you read what you wrote I think you just turned the tables on yourself.  You have an engineering degree but you are not an automotive engineer.  You are a mechanic and salesman?  So this is a marketing ploy!  Glad you chose to expose it for what it is.  You wrote it and put it out there on the web so if you weren’t prepared for any criticism than you shouldn’t have put it on the web.  If you can’t take it don’t dish it out.  It makes you look like a shill for Toyota!  Thanks for sharing and have great day!</p>
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		<title>By: Mickey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hexmate let's put a spin on it. Maybe you don't have any problems and you just want to beat down a product. I can't help it if you're P/O at Toyota but that doesn't mean that I have to have the same problems as you. As you note the mileage on my truck in the short time I owned it. I use my truck. If I didn't complain about a vehicle problem why would I lose $7000 in trade in of that crap Chevy that was constantly having issues when I had it for 16 months. If I'm not right it was in the shop 18x in 16 months go figure. SO don't give me your crap about I won't tell the truth. As displeased I was with the Chevy there were still things I liked about it that I wish Toyota would do. Like you I wasn't going to stick around and not complain about it. How would you like to go to 2 other dealerships besides your own and look at the same truck and see 1 out 3 at one, 2 out of 3 at the other two dealerships with the problem and they were selling them brand new with the DEFECT. Then the salesmanger tells you we have a great warranty to fix them when the customer sees the problem. In that sentence right there which I put down word for word what was told to me by the manager spells it out DEFRAUD. Knowing a defect and still selling them without disclosure of the defect is Defrauding the public. So why should I stay with a company which I went to school for and worked for when I see this. SO what if I wanted to try something New. I wanted a new start because my last 4 were very bad in vehicles I bought. I'm sorry I can't agree with you. Just because you say doesn't mean I have. If you don't like your Tundra by all means get rid of it and quit complaining. I did on the chevy and Ford. If you are that serious about the problems then quit beating the brow and move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hexmate let&#8217;s put a spin on it. Maybe you don&#8217;t have any problems and you just want to beat down a product. I can&#8217;t help it if you&#8217;re P/O at Toyota but that doesn&#8217;t mean that I have to have the same problems as you. As you note the mileage on my truck in the short time I owned it. I use my truck. If I didn&#8217;t complain about a vehicle problem why would I lose $7000 in trade in of that crap Chevy that was constantly having issues when I had it for 16 months. If I&#8217;m not right it was in the shop 18x in 16 months go figure. SO don&#8217;t give me your crap about I won&#8217;t tell the truth. As displeased I was with the Chevy there were still things I liked about it that I wish Toyota would do. Like you I wasn&#8217;t going to stick around and not complain about it. How would you like to go to 2 other dealerships besides your own and look at the same truck and see 1 out 3 at one, 2 out of 3 at the other two dealerships with the problem and they were selling them brand new with the DEFECT. Then the salesmanger tells you we have a great warranty to fix them when the customer sees the problem. In that sentence right there which I put down word for word what was told to me by the manager spells it out DEFRAUD. Knowing a defect and still selling them without disclosure of the defect is Defrauding the public. So why should I stay with a company which I went to school for and worked for when I see this. SO what if I wanted to try something New. I wanted a new start because my last 4 were very bad in vehicles I bought. I&#8217;m sorry I can&#8217;t agree with you. Just because you say doesn&#8217;t mean I have. If you don&#8217;t like your Tundra by all means get rid of it and quit complaining. I did on the chevy and Ford. If you are that serious about the problems then quit beating the brow and move on.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hexmate - you're tactics are called "trolling". You're here to denigrate and insult - nothing more. Your first comment accused us of not driving the trucks - as if we'd perform a comparison like this and NEVER drive a truck. It's ridiculous. Next, you state that we're biased because of our perspective. Maybe so, but considering we did a lot to bring the Tundra's bed bounce problem to light, I think that we're TRYING to be even handed. Maybe we could do better, but I still believe our comparison was factual. Third, you say that because we didn't find the same results as C&#38;D, we must be wrong. Or biased. Or unqualified. Isn't it possible that we simply have a different opinion? Isn't it possible that C&#38;D might be wrong??! Heaven forbid. My qualifications are fixing and selling vehicles for about 10 years - my partner has more than 25 years of experience doing the same. I've owned a Silverado, and F150, and a Tundra, and I liked them all. Chevy makes a great truck (if you look at the comparison, you'll see that we said that). I also have an engineering degree from the Colorado School of Mines, a well-known engineering school in the Rocky Mountains. No, I'm not an editor of a major magazine. I'm not an experienced race car driver. I doubt I have the knowledge or experience of a lot of people at C&#38;D. Do you? Despite my "lack of qualifications", I've managed to help create a website that people like and respect. What exactly have you done? What makes you qualified to insult me? Finally, when I try to get you to stand by your accusations, you back up faster than a crawfish. You respond with something akin to "I asked you first!" - it's like arguing with a 2 year old. If only I had realized you don't argue with a 2 year old 10 comments ago. There's an hour of my life I'll never get back. Thanks for wasting my time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hexmate - you&#8217;re tactics are called &#8220;trolling&#8221;. You&#8217;re here to denigrate and insult - nothing more. Your first comment accused us of not driving the trucks - as if we&#8217;d perform a comparison like this and NEVER drive a truck. It&#8217;s ridiculous. Next, you state that we&#8217;re biased because of our perspective. Maybe so, but considering we did a lot to bring the Tundra&#8217;s bed bounce problem to light, I think that we&#8217;re TRYING to be even handed. Maybe we could do better, but I still believe our comparison was factual. Third, you say that because we didn&#8217;t find the same results as C&amp;D, we must be wrong. Or biased. Or unqualified. Isn&#8217;t it possible that we simply have a different opinion? Isn&#8217;t it possible that C&amp;D might be wrong??! Heaven forbid. My qualifications are fixing and selling vehicles for about 10 years - my partner has more than 25 years of experience doing the same. I&#8217;ve owned a Silverado, and F150, and a Tundra, and I liked them all. Chevy makes a great truck (if you look at the comparison, you&#8217;ll see that we said that). I also have an engineering degree from the Colorado School of Mines, a well-known engineering school in the Rocky Mountains. No, I&#8217;m not an editor of a major magazine. I&#8217;m not an experienced race car driver. I doubt I have the knowledge or experience of a lot of people at C&amp;D. Do you? Despite my &#8220;lack of qualifications&#8221;, I&#8217;ve managed to help create a website that people like and respect. What exactly have you done? What makes you qualified to insult me? Finally, when I try to get you to stand by your accusations, you back up faster than a crawfish. You respond with something akin to &#8220;I asked you first!&#8221; - it&#8217;s like arguing with a 2 year old. If only I had realized you don&#8217;t argue with a 2 year old 10 comments ago. There&#8217;s an hour of my life I&#8217;ll never get back. Thanks for wasting my time.</p>
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		<title>By: Hexmate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hexmate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Admin - You couldn't respond to my note so you wrote that drivel message?  Is that because you couldn’t provide an answer?

Champ – Thanks for confirming my assumption for me.  You lived up to my expectations perfectly.

Mickey – It doesn’t matter where you live you will have the flex problem but we’ll never hear that from you because you’ll never tell the truth.  Funny how none of the Tundra problems are an issue with you guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Admin - You couldn&#8217;t respond to my note so you wrote that drivel message?  Is that because you couldn’t provide an answer?</p>
<p>Champ – Thanks for confirming my assumption for me.  You lived up to my expectations perfectly.</p>
<p>Mickey – It doesn’t matter where you live you will have the flex problem but we’ll never hear that from you because you’ll never tell the truth.  Funny how none of the Tundra problems are an issue with you guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Mickey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truck Champ he can't. Even with C/R he would still have issues. He found a mag that follows his ideas and swares by it.</description>
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