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	<title>Comments on: Dodge&#8217;s New Fuel Price Protection Program Is A Scam</title>
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		<title>By: naim bossi</title>
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		<dc:creator>naim bossi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 04:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how about this:

buy a vehicle you like, drive it, and shut up.

too easy to complain...

or should I WHINE.

happy owner, 08 ram 1500.
done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how about this:</p>
<p>buy a vehicle you like, drive it, and shut up.</p>
<p>too easy to complain&#8230;</p>
<p>or should I WHINE.</p>
<p>happy owner, 08 ram 1500.<br />
done.</p>
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		<title>By: admin (Jason)</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin (Jason)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 02:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter - Good point. I&#039;ve read that only certain gas stations accept the card, so that might be the &quot;catch.&quot;
Mickey - Your local dealer&#039;s got a good idea there. Maybe Dodge should roll that out next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter &#8211; Good point. I&#8217;ve read that only certain gas stations accept the card, so that might be the &#8220;catch.&#8221;<br />
Mickey &#8211; Your local dealer&#8217;s got a good idea there. Maybe Dodge should roll that out next.</p>
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		<title>By: Mickey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 00:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason the dodge dealership here is offering $.99 a gallon when you buy a jeep, dodge, and chrysler. I guess they will pay the extra $2.00 a gallon to sell a vehicle. Times must be hitting real hard in areas trying to sell vehicles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason the dodge dealership here is offering $.99 a gallon when you buy a jeep, dodge, and chrysler. I guess they will pay the extra $2.00 a gallon to sell a vehicle. Times must be hitting real hard in areas trying to sell vehicles.</p>
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		<title>By: $2.99 gas guarantee &#171; Out There</title>
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		<dc:creator>$2.99 gas guarantee &#171; Out There</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 02:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] anywhere in the US (no geographical exclusions that I&#8217;m aware of).  According to a lot of analysis, its not that great a deal compared to the cash rebate you can take instead.  But that analysis is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] anywhere in the US (no geographical exclusions that I&#8217;m aware of).  According to a lot of analysis, its not that great a deal compared to the cash rebate you can take instead.  But that analysis is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 02:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This would be awesome to use in remote alaska villages where gas goes for $8/gallon.  Is it true that you can sell the vehicle and keep the gas card for yourself (essentially you could use it for boats, snowmobiles, etc)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would be awesome to use in remote alaska villages where gas goes for $8/gallon.  Is it true that you can sell the vehicle and keep the gas card for yourself (essentially you could use it for boats, snowmobiles, etc)?</p>
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		<title>By: admin (Jason)</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin (Jason)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John - You&#039;re absolutely right that the benefits of the hedge have yet to be shown, however, the fact that only certain gas stations accept the gas card takes more wind out of the offer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John &#8211; You&#8217;re absolutely right that the benefits of the hedge have yet to be shown, however, the fact that only certain gas stations accept the gas card takes more wind out of the offer.</p>
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		<title>By: John Sipp</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Sipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We traded a less efficient 2004 Pacifica for the more efficient 2009 Journey.  We got $1000 rebate, plus the gas card.

We also got a 4.25% interest rate, (the Pacifica was paid for, but the rate there was 6.25%).

Since we bought the Journey, the price per galllon has already gone up about 15¢, and doesn&#039;t look to go back down any time soon, with the situation in the Middle East.

Is it a good deal?  Only time will tell how good/bad a deal it was.  It is a hedge against increasing gas prices, and at a comfortable interest rate.

Sure it&#039;s a sales tactic - EVERY rebate/incentive is!  The point is, don&#039;t just take what they give you.. advocate for yourself.  By negotiating, we were able to get the rebate PLUS the gas card, (although when we got to the dealership they were insisting that it was an either/or deal.  We stuck to our guns, and got what we were entitled to.

One slight drawback to the program is that it is NOT available at every gas station.. but they have a website available that will tell you which ones qualify, so with a little foresight you can easily get the $2.99.  Three stations are available within 2 miles of my house, (closer than the station I was using previously).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We traded a less efficient 2004 Pacifica for the more efficient 2009 Journey.  We got $1000 rebate, plus the gas card.</p>
<p>We also got a 4.25% interest rate, (the Pacifica was paid for, but the rate there was 6.25%).</p>
<p>Since we bought the Journey, the price per galllon has already gone up about 15¢, and doesn&#8217;t look to go back down any time soon, with the situation in the Middle East.</p>
<p>Is it a good deal?  Only time will tell how good/bad a deal it was.  It is a hedge against increasing gas prices, and at a comfortable interest rate.</p>
<p>Sure it&#8217;s a sales tactic &#8211; EVERY rebate/incentive is!  The point is, don&#8217;t just take what they give you.. advocate for yourself.  By negotiating, we were able to get the rebate PLUS the gas card, (although when we got to the dealership they were insisting that it was an either/or deal.  We stuck to our guns, and got what we were entitled to.</p>
<p>One slight drawback to the program is that it is NOT available at every gas station.. but they have a website available that will tell you which ones qualify, so with a little foresight you can easily get the $2.99.  Three stations are available within 2 miles of my house, (closer than the station I was using previously).</p>
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		<title>By: No Good Deals Weblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dodge’s New Fuel Price Protection Program Is A Scam</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Good Deals Weblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dodge’s New Fuel Price Protection Program Is A Scam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 04:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you also forget is that if you use more than 12000mi worth of gas your card is useless.  The average distance people drive a year is 15000mi a year.   Interest rates also need to be taken into effect.  Also if your buying a gas guzzler and after your done your three years of 2.99/gal your stuck with a gas guzzler with gas prices as high as 4-6 dollars a gallon.  You try and sell a vehicle with 12-18 mi/gal with gas at that price,  good luck.  You can bearly give away a V8 4x4 truck at the moment with the price at 4.35/gal. Don&#039;t forget your insurance will most likely go up as well for a new vehicle.  My advice is with the economy the way it is right now people shouldn&#039;t be buying 20-30 thousand dollar vehicle to save 2 bucks a gallon on a new ride.  
Bottom line is Chrysler is not going to loose any money with this program.  They will however make money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you also forget is that if you use more than 12000mi worth of gas your card is useless.  The average distance people drive a year is 15000mi a year.   Interest rates also need to be taken into effect.  Also if your buying a gas guzzler and after your done your three years of 2.99/gal your stuck with a gas guzzler with gas prices as high as 4-6 dollars a gallon.  You try and sell a vehicle with 12-18 mi/gal with gas at that price,  good luck.  You can bearly give away a V8 4&#215;4 truck at the moment with the price at 4.35/gal. Don&#8217;t forget your insurance will most likely go up as well for a new vehicle.  My advice is with the economy the way it is right now people shouldn&#8217;t be buying 20-30 thousand dollar vehicle to save 2 bucks a gallon on a new ride.<br />
Bottom line is Chrysler is not going to loose any money with this program.  They will however make money.</p>
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		<title>By: David Pease</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Pease</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The savings on the gas deal for the Hemi or 4.7L truck don&#039;t really begin until gas hits about $4.15/g.  You give up $2500 rebate on the Ram and the mileage allowance is figured at 15 mpg average fuel economy&gt;&gt;800 gallons per year x 3 yr, so you need to save 1.15/g to equal the $2500 given up.  However, the deal also applies to diesel trucks, where you surrender $2500 also!  There it is a great deal already since diesel prices have hit $4.80!  On Calibers, the fuel economy is averaged at 24 mpg, so you have 500 gallons per year on the discount, and you&#039;re giving up just $750 rebate...the math on that was easy, save $.50 per gallon and you&#039;re good!  Save $1 per gallon and you have twice the saving! On the Chargers, Avengers, Grand Caravans, and Journeys gas prices have already passed the &#039;break even&#039; point of $3.75/g.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The savings on the gas deal for the Hemi or 4.7L truck don&#8217;t really begin until gas hits about $4.15/g.  You give up $2500 rebate on the Ram and the mileage allowance is figured at 15 mpg average fuel economy&gt;&gt;800 gallons per year x 3 yr, so you need to save 1.15/g to equal the $2500 given up.  However, the deal also applies to diesel trucks, where you surrender $2500 also!  There it is a great deal already since diesel prices have hit $4.80!  On Calibers, the fuel economy is averaged at 24 mpg, so you have 500 gallons per year on the discount, and you&#8217;re giving up just $750 rebate&#8230;the math on that was easy, save $.50 per gallon and you&#8217;re good!  Save $1 per gallon and you have twice the saving! On the Chargers, Avengers, Grand Caravans, and Journeys gas prices have already passed the &#8216;break even&#8217; point of $3.75/g.</p>
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