Comments on: 2009 Toyota Tundra vs 2009 Ford F150 – Part One – Mechanicals http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/01/26/2009-tundra-vs-2009-f150-mechanicals/ Toyota Tundra News, Reviews, Accessories, and Information Wed, 17 Mar 2010 05:08:20 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jason http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/01/26/2009-tundra-vs-2009-f150-mechanicals/#comment-11383 Jason Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:03:36 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=776#comment-11383 Jordan - Sorry to hear you didn't like your 08' - congrats on the F150. That's a great truck too. Jordan – Sorry to hear you didn’t like your 08′ – congrats on the F150. That’s a great truck too.

]]> By: Jordan http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/01/26/2009-tundra-vs-2009-f150-mechanicals/#comment-11369 Jordan Tue, 12 Jan 2010 03:57:38 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=776#comment-11369 If you are referring to my comment, what I meant was that Toyota needs to design a new frame to be competitive with what the other truck manufacturers have out there. The frame on the Tundra is not on par with its domestic counterparts. Those videos out there of Tundras on the testing grounds are proof enough. The truck looks like a gummy worm with all the frame flex and sheet metal rippling. I bought into the hype thinking Toyota took the best of the domestics but with reliability and resale value. In 3 months of shopping, not one dealer would come even close to giving me what KBB said was the trade-in value of my truck. I ended up eating about 4K, so the truck didn't hold its value like I was led to believe it would. My truck was also in for repairs 6 times in 11 months. Each visit they kept the truck for over a week. I understand that it is hard to make ground in such a competitive market and I believe that in the next 5 years or so that Toyota will have had enough time to design a truly competitive truck. Hell, you can't argue with the numbers: No. 1: Ford F-Series 413,625 -19.8% YTD December 2009: 48,209 December 2008: 41,580 No. 6: Toyota Tundra 79,385 -42.2% YTD December 2009: 8,870 December 2008: 9,191 If you are referring to my comment, what I meant was that Toyota needs to design a new frame to be competitive with what the other truck manufacturers have out there. The frame on the Tundra is not on par with its domestic counterparts. Those videos out there of Tundras on the testing grounds are proof enough. The truck looks like a gummy worm with all the frame flex and sheet metal rippling. I bought into the hype thinking Toyota took the best of the domestics but with reliability and resale value. In 3 months of shopping, not one dealer would come even close to giving me what KBB said was the trade-in value of my truck. I ended up eating about 4K, so the truck didn’t hold its value like I was led to believe it would. My truck was also in for repairs 6 times in 11 months. Each visit they kept the truck for over a week. I understand that it is hard to make ground in such a competitive market and I believe that in the next 5 years or so that Toyota will have had enough time to design a truly competitive truck. Hell, you can’t argue with the numbers:
No. 1: Ford F-Series
413,625 -19.8% YTD
December 2009: 48,209
December 2008: 41,580

No. 6: Toyota Tundra
79,385 -42.2% YTD
December 2009: 8,870
December 2008: 9,191

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/01/26/2009-tundra-vs-2009-f150-mechanicals/#comment-11368 Anonymous Tue, 12 Jan 2010 02:09:24 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=776#comment-11368 New frame, in 08? What? New frame, in 08? What?

]]> By: Mickey http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/01/26/2009-tundra-vs-2009-f150-mechanicals/#comment-11365 Mickey Tue, 12 Jan 2010 01:00:00 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=776#comment-11365 New frame on an 08? New frame on an 08?

]]> By: Jordan http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/01/26/2009-tundra-vs-2009-f150-mechanicals/#comment-11362 Jordan Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:38:12 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=776#comment-11362 Just traded my 08 Tundra for an 09 F150. I couldn't get over my Tundra never getting better than 12 avg mpg and I was frequently at the dealer with drivetrain issues, mainly engine problems. I do feel like the 5.7 was faster, but the 5.4 is never short on torque, which is what I want in a truck. The F150 never sees anything over 3500rpms under normal driving where I was constantly over 4500rpms with the Tundra. The 5.4 is much more of a truck engine IMHO, all the power down low where it is supposed to be. In 8500 miles of mixed driving, my FX4 is averaging 16.1 mpg, needless to say, I am VERY happy with the fuel savings. Don't get me wrong though, I loved my Tundra, and would not have any issues buying one again in the future, but Toyota needs to bring a new frame into the mix and bring the interior into the 2000's. Just traded my 08 Tundra for an 09 F150. I couldn’t get over my Tundra never getting better than 12 avg mpg and I was frequently at the dealer with drivetrain issues, mainly engine problems. I do feel like the 5.7 was faster, but the 5.4 is never short on torque, which is what I want in a truck. The F150 never sees anything over 3500rpms under normal driving where I was constantly over 4500rpms with the Tundra. The 5.4 is much more of a truck engine IMHO, all the power down low where it is supposed to be. In 8500 miles of mixed driving, my FX4 is averaging 16.1 mpg, needless to say, I am VERY happy with the fuel savings. Don’t get me wrong though, I loved my Tundra, and would not have any issues buying one again in the future, but Toyota needs to bring a new frame into the mix and bring the interior into the 2000’s.

]]> By: Jason http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/01/26/2009-tundra-vs-2009-f150-mechanicals/#comment-11348 Jason Sun, 10 Jan 2010 21:21:36 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=776#comment-11348 Brad - You don't feel a difference between driving a 5.4L Ford and a 5.7L Tundra? You need to see a doctor. The difference is PROFOUND sir, and you don't have to take our word for it. Any auto review you find will tell you the Tundra is fast. As for your other comments, I agree the F150 is a hell of a truck. You'll never hear me disagree with that. Brad – You don’t feel a difference between driving a 5.4L Ford and a 5.7L Tundra? You need to see a doctor. The difference is PROFOUND sir, and you don’t have to take our word for it. Any auto review you find will tell you the Tundra is fast. As for your other comments, I agree the F150 is a hell of a truck. You’ll never hear me disagree with that.

]]> By: Brad http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/01/26/2009-tundra-vs-2009-f150-mechanicals/#comment-11340 Brad Sat, 09 Jan 2010 03:03:10 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=776#comment-11340 I agree with Tera, I don't feel the difference. A lot of Tundra owners don't seem very happy, a lot of talk about going back to domestic. Ford isn't hurting, what was their 4th quarter profit and year profit? Plus they already fixed their piston issue and the oil is not contaminated. Just like every other attempt of anyone to make a full size truck, the truth is coming out in the wash. But hands down they have tried it three times, but the Ford wins. How's that work, oh yhea it goes to the older design! I agree with Tera, I don’t feel the difference. A lot of Tundra owners don’t seem very happy, a lot of talk about going back to domestic. Ford isn’t hurting, what was their 4th quarter profit and year profit? Plus they already fixed their piston issue and the oil is not contaminated. Just like every other attempt of anyone to make a full size truck, the truth is coming out in the wash. But hands down they have tried it three times, but the Ford wins. How’s that work, oh yhea it goes to the older design!

]]> By: Mickey http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/01/26/2009-tundra-vs-2009-f150-mechanicals/#comment-10696 Mickey Mon, 07 Dec 2009 03:02:33 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=776#comment-10696 Jason I can't stop laughing at Tera's remarks. Jason I can’t stop laughing at Tera’s remarks.

]]> By: Admin (Jason) http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/01/26/2009-tundra-vs-2009-f150-mechanicals/#comment-10691 Admin (Jason) Mon, 07 Dec 2009 02:16:12 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=776#comment-10691 Tera - Did you seriously just ask if the reviewers (including myself) are competent enough to drive? What kind of an idiot are you? Tera – Did you seriously just ask if the reviewers (including myself) are competent enough to drive? What kind of an idiot are you?

]]> By: Tera http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/01/26/2009-tundra-vs-2009-f150-mechanicals/#comment-10678 Tera Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:13:33 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=776#comment-10678 Tundra is like a rocket compared to the F-150. Did the accelerator stick on the Tundra again? Who wrote this article? Are they competent enough to drive, what are their credentials? Asking due to the fact that I have seen and drove both as rental vehicles so I put them through the pace! I don't see the 5.7l all that different, the Titan and New Ram seem more powerful to be honest and they handle better off road! Tundra is like a rocket compared to the F-150. Did the accelerator stick on the Tundra again? Who wrote this article? Are they competent enough to drive, what are their credentials? Asking due to the fact that I have seen and drove both as rental vehicles so I put them through the pace! I don’t see the 5.7l all that different, the Titan and New Ram seem more powerful to be honest and they handle better off road!

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