Comments on: Are Diesel Truck Engines Doomed? http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/08/12/diesel-truck-engines-doomed/ Toyota Tundra News, Reviews, Accessories, and Information Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:35:47 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Admin (Jason) http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/08/12/diesel-truck-engines-doomed/#comment-9046 Admin (Jason) Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:59:57 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=1578#comment-9046 Billy - That was the original plan...we'll see if they revive it. Billy – That was the original plan…we’ll see if they revive it.

]]> By: Billy http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/08/12/diesel-truck-engines-doomed/#comment-9037 Billy Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:59:03 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=1578#comment-9037 I would really like to see a diesel, possibly heavy-half or 3/4 ton Tundra for overland camping. The combination would give the fuel mileage and payload to haul a slide-in pop-up truck camper and an off-road trailer. What a combination! I would really like to see a diesel, possibly heavy-half or 3/4 ton Tundra for overland camping. The combination would give the fuel mileage and payload to haul a slide-in pop-up truck camper and an off-road trailer. What a combination!

]]> By: admin (Jason) http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/08/12/diesel-truck-engines-doomed/#comment-8415 admin (Jason) Sun, 16 Aug 2009 20:41:16 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=1578#comment-8415 Art64 - I think you're right. This is how it usually works when change occurs - someone does something that the status quo thinks is "crazy," and the result is a paradigm shift. Art64 – I think you’re right. This is how it usually works when change occurs – someone does something that the status quo thinks is “crazy,” and the result is a paradigm shift.

]]> By: admin (Jason) http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/08/12/diesel-truck-engines-doomed/#comment-8414 admin (Jason) Sun, 16 Aug 2009 20:38:25 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=1578#comment-8414 mk - I think the advantages of a diesel half-ton are driveability and fuel economy. Diesels pull and haul better than gas motors, and assuming gas prices increase alongside diesel prices, the fuel economy benefit will offset a significant portion of the additional costs. I agree that most truck owners will stick with gas, but if only 10% of light truck buyers opt for diesel, that's 200,000 units. I think the market is bigger than 1 in 10...but what do I know. Thanks for commenting as always. mk – I think the advantages of a diesel half-ton are driveability and fuel economy. Diesels pull and haul better than gas motors, and assuming gas prices increase alongside diesel prices, the fuel economy benefit will offset a significant portion of the additional costs. I agree that most truck owners will stick with gas, but if only 10% of light truck buyers opt for diesel, that’s 200,000 units. I think the market is bigger than 1 in 10…but what do I know. Thanks for commenting as always.

]]> By: Art64 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/08/12/diesel-truck-engines-doomed/#comment-8412 Art64 Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:50:34 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=1578#comment-8412 No it is not doomed. Mahindra is just about to launch their diesel powered vehicles here in the U.S. This will pave the way for other manufacturers to offer diesel engines on their vehicles. No it is not doomed. Mahindra is just about to launch their diesel powered vehicles here in the U.S. This will pave the way for other manufacturers to offer diesel engines on their vehicles.

]]> By: mk http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/08/12/diesel-truck-engines-doomed/#comment-8408 mk Sun, 16 Aug 2009 03:26:08 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=1578#comment-8408 I think 381 hp and 401 lbs. of torque on the 5.7L tundra gas engine is more than enough to pull just about anything under 10,000 lbs. It would be the suspension on towing anything over lets say 7-8K that would be in need of help. Why would a diesel engine be more in any 1/2 ton truck when it is not needed? Diesels have their place in towing over 8K or so consistently in day to day operations due to their low rpms and high torque, but that is for the minority (I'm guessing 10-15% of all pickup owners). Until they build a diesel comparably priced to a gas engine, they will not be taking over 1/2 of the sales anytime soon. I think 381 hp and 401 lbs. of torque on the 5.7L tundra gas engine is more than enough to pull just about anything under 10,000 lbs. It would be the suspension on towing anything over lets say 7-8K that would be in need of help. Why would a diesel engine be more in any 1/2 ton truck when it is not needed? Diesels have their place in towing over 8K or so consistently in day to day operations due to their low rpms and high torque, but that is for the minority (I’m guessing 10-15% of all pickup owners). Until they build a diesel comparably priced to a gas engine, they will not be taking over 1/2 of the sales anytime soon.

]]> By: admin (Jason) http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/08/12/diesel-truck-engines-doomed/#comment-8378 admin (Jason) Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:23:12 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=1578#comment-8378 MPGomatic - Thanks for commenting. I've read about the VW truck, and it makes sense for them to get involved if they really want to be the biggest manufacturer in the world. It will be interesting to see what happens. One of the disadvantages listed wasn't actually fuel costs - it was overall costs. Diesels are MUCH more expensive than gas motors, especially in big pickups. I believe that consumers will pay more because they understand they'll be getting more...but I seem to be in the minority. MPGomatic – Thanks for commenting. I’ve read about the VW truck, and it makes sense for them to get involved if they really want to be the biggest manufacturer in the world. It will be interesting to see what happens. One of the disadvantages listed wasn’t actually fuel costs – it was overall costs. Diesels are MUCH more expensive than gas motors, especially in big pickups. I believe that consumers will pay more because they understand they’ll be getting more…but I seem to be in the minority.

]]> By: MPGomatic http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/08/12/diesel-truck-engines-doomed/#comment-8374 MPGomatic Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:32:01 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=1578#comment-8374 The three negatives stated - Emissions, Fuel Expense, and Availability - aren't the problem they once were. Advanced exhaust systems have met the current emissions regulations. Diesel fuel has been less expensive than regular unleaded for a good portion of this year and availability isn't an issue anymore. The global recession has lessened the demand for diesel fuel around the world and this has resulted in lower prices here in the States. More domestic diesel fuel production capacity is coming on, as well. Ford and GM have been reluctant to push diesel for a number of reasons, including a lack of coherent domestic energy policy and the corporations' internal capabilities. Chrysler, through the Daimler years, pushed diesel slowly, with brief stints in the Liberty CRD and Grand Cherokee CRD. Now that they're in the hands of Fiat (which has the in house expertise), watch for smaller displacement clean diesels to sneak into the mix. Mahindra has a wild card. Watch for Volkswagen to follow suit, should they re-enter the American pickup truck market. The three negatives stated – Emissions, Fuel Expense, and Availability – aren’t the problem they once were. Advanced exhaust systems have met the current emissions regulations. Diesel fuel has been less expensive than regular unleaded for a good portion of this year and availability isn’t an issue anymore. The global recession has lessened the demand for diesel fuel around the world and this has resulted in lower prices here in the States. More domestic diesel fuel production capacity is coming on, as well.

Ford and GM have been reluctant to push diesel for a number of reasons, including a lack of coherent domestic energy policy and the corporations’ internal capabilities.

Chrysler, through the Daimler years, pushed diesel slowly, with brief stints in the Liberty CRD and Grand Cherokee CRD. Now that they’re in the hands of Fiat (which has the in house expertise), watch for smaller displacement clean diesels to sneak into the mix.

Mahindra has a wild card. Watch for Volkswagen to follow suit, should they re-enter the American pickup truck market.

]]> By: admin (Jason) http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/08/12/diesel-truck-engines-doomed/#comment-8353 admin (Jason) Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:52:53 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=1578#comment-8353 Lots of great comments - thank you all. Looking forward to reading more. Lots of great comments – thank you all. Looking forward to reading more.

]]> By: Jeremy the Dark Dork Overlord http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/08/12/diesel-truck-engines-doomed/#comment-8348 Jeremy the Dark Dork Overlord Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:03:08 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=1578#comment-8348 where ever the fuel comes from will incur a price increase. Best case is that it would be a short term, 2 to 4 year, increase until the infrastructure caught up with demand. where ever the fuel comes from will incur a price increase. Best case is that it would be a short term, 2 to 4 year, increase until the infrastructure caught up with demand.

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