Comments on: 2009-2010 Truck Maximum Tow Rating Guide – Part Two http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/09/16/2009-2010-truck-maximum-tow-rating-guide-part-two/ Toyota Tundra News, Reviews, Accessories, and Information Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:33:37 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: John http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/09/16/2009-2010-truck-maximum-tow-rating-guide-part-two/#comment-11358 John Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:33:25 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=1755#comment-11358 None of these trucks can in the real legal world haul their max rated trailer weights. For example a Toyota double cab 4x4 has a payload of 1620lbs which you need to figure the passenger and any stuff hauled as well as the weight of the fuel load. What is left is for the trailer tongue weight or 5th wheel pin. Most 8 or 9 k 5th wheels would not be legal going with a 15% pin weight with just fuel in the truck and no passengers. Even a TT with a 1000lb tongue would be pushing it if a family was traveling. IMO 1/2 tons are trucks for farmers and contractors etc that don't use them to tow anything other than a tandem 8k rated deck or maybe a small TT. Buy a real truck to pull anything over 8k. None of these trucks can in the real legal world haul their max rated trailer weights. For example a Toyota double cab 4×4 has a payload of 1620lbs which you need to figure the passenger and any stuff hauled as well as the weight of the fuel load. What is left is for the trailer tongue weight or 5th wheel pin. Most 8 or 9 k 5th wheels would not be legal going with a 15% pin weight with just fuel in the truck and no passengers. Even a TT with a 1000lb tongue would be pushing it if a family was traveling. IMO 1/2 tons are trucks for farmers and contractors etc that don’t use them to tow anything other than a tandem 8k rated deck or maybe a small TT. Buy a real truck to pull anything over 8k.

]]> By: TXTee http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/09/16/2009-2010-truck-maximum-tow-rating-guide-part-two/#comment-9058 TXTee Thu, 24 Sep 2009 03:20:33 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=1755#comment-9058 Jer - I have seen the Salsa Red Pearl in person and on the road.....it's very nice. I have a Highlander in that color so I didn't want a truck same color. Beautiful color option on pracitally all Toyota models. I actually like it too because it's NOT common. Jer – I have seen the Salsa Red Pearl in person and on the road…..it’s very nice. I have a Highlander in that color so I didn’t want a truck same color. Beautiful color option on pracitally all Toyota models. I actually like it too because it’s NOT common.

]]> By: Admin (Jason) http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/09/16/2009-2010-truck-maximum-tow-rating-guide-part-two/#comment-9045 Admin (Jason) Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:58:50 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=1755#comment-9045 loren - If you read the TruckTrend article, you'll see that there are a lot of factors that are fudged into a truck's tow rating. For example, weight isn't the only concern. I know of an F450 that lost 3 transmissions in 30k miles pulling a 6,000lbs boat...and the truck was performing to the best of it's abilities. It turns out the boat was HUGE and the air resistance at highway speeds was incredible. The truck's owner never even considered the fact that the aerodynamic cross section of his boat generated the equivalent of 30,000 lbs of trailer weight. To bring this back to the tow ratings, no one discloses the aerodynamics of the trailer rating...so it's hard to say. Standardization is needed, and when a new standard comes out we'll probably see the Toyota at or near the top of the pack. However, I highly doubt the number will be as high...I wouldn't be surprised if EVERY tow rating was 20% lower than the manufacturers currently claim. Make sense? loren – If you read the TruckTrend article, you’ll see that there are a lot of factors that are fudged into a truck’s tow rating. For example, weight isn’t the only concern. I know of an F450 that lost 3 transmissions in 30k miles pulling a 6,000lbs boat…and the truck was performing to the best of it’s abilities. It turns out the boat was HUGE and the air resistance at highway speeds was incredible. The truck’s owner never even considered the fact that the aerodynamic cross section of his boat generated the equivalent of 30,000 lbs of trailer weight. To bring this back to the tow ratings, no one discloses the aerodynamics of the trailer rating…so it’s hard to say. Standardization is needed, and when a new standard comes out we’ll probably see the Toyota at or near the top of the pack. However, I highly doubt the number will be as high…I wouldn’t be surprised if EVERY tow rating was 20% lower than the manufacturers currently claim. Make sense?

]]> By: loren http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/09/16/2009-2010-truck-maximum-tow-rating-guide-part-two/#comment-9038 loren Wed, 23 Sep 2009 03:07:50 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=1755#comment-9038 Chevy tow ratings seem rational and toyota a little high I don't understand that. I have not seen one article that clearly puts chevy in front. Actually the toyota seems to do better. The chevy has a little more power but taller gears. And if the toyota has power braking and cooling concerns there is no doubt the chevy would to Chevy tow ratings seem rational and toyota a little high I don’t understand that. I have not seen one article that clearly puts chevy in front. Actually the toyota seems to do better. The chevy has a little more power but taller gears. And if the toyota has power braking and cooling concerns there is no doubt the chevy would to

]]> By: Jer http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/09/16/2009-2010-truck-maximum-tow-rating-guide-part-two/#comment-9025 Jer Tue, 22 Sep 2009 02:24:22 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=1755#comment-9025 Well Im sure it will pull the 32 foot camper trailer just fine. We only pull it to the lake a couple times a year... BTW.... Anyone ever seen the Salsa Red Peal that Toyota offers? When trying to pick out a colour at the dealer the Salsa red caught our eye but we have yet to see one on the road and the dealer didnt have one on the lot. Well Im sure it will pull the 32 foot camper trailer just fine. We only pull it to the lake a couple times a year… BTW…. Anyone ever seen the Salsa Red Peal that Toyota offers? When trying to pick out a colour at the dealer the Salsa red caught our eye but we have yet to see one on the road and the dealer didnt have one on the lot.

]]> By: Admin (Jason) http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/09/16/2009-2010-truck-maximum-tow-rating-guide-part-two/#comment-9012 Admin (Jason) Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:09:30 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=1755#comment-9012 Jer - The terms "half ton", 3/4 ton, 1 ton, etc. are all antiquated. They have little relevance to modern pickups in terms of actual capacities. Payload and towing are related in terms of tongue weight - the average trailer has a tongue weight that's equal to 10-20% of the total weight of the trailer. So, if a trailer weighs 10,000 lbs, it has a tongue weight of 1-2k lbs. That's a situation where the Tundra is rated to PULL the trailer, but not rated to HAUL the trailer if the tongue weight exceeds about 1600lbs (depending on model, options, weight of drivers, etc.). Jer – The terms “half ton”, 3/4 ton, 1 ton, etc. are all antiquated. They have little relevance to modern pickups in terms of actual capacities. Payload and towing are related in terms of tongue weight – the average trailer has a tongue weight that’s equal to 10-20% of the total weight of the trailer. So, if a trailer weighs 10,000 lbs, it has a tongue weight of 1-2k lbs. That’s a situation where the Tundra is rated to PULL the trailer, but not rated to HAUL the trailer if the tongue weight exceeds about 1600lbs (depending on model, options, weight of drivers, etc.).

]]> By: Admin (Jason) http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/09/16/2009-2010-truck-maximum-tow-rating-guide-part-two/#comment-9006 Admin (Jason) Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:44:34 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=1755#comment-9006 Mickey - Thanks a lot - I really appreciate it. Mickey – Thanks a lot – I really appreciate it.

]]> By: Jer http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/09/16/2009-2010-truck-maximum-tow-rating-guide-part-two/#comment-9003 Jer Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:32:15 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=1755#comment-9003 Just placed an order for a 2010 Tundra, Crew Max. 12 weeks to get a truck, thats ridiculous. Had a heated discussion with a F150 lover over the weekend claiming Ford boast the highest towing capacity and that Toyota's are for wanna be's. I was a little puzzled by the claim that his truck with less horsepower, less torque and a taller gear ratio could tow more than a Tundra. Thanks for confirming my suspicions. Only addition I would make is clarify what is meant by half tonne truck. This refers to payload and not towing capacity. Half tonne is 500 Kg and Tundra can handle anywhere from 600-800 kg with the same truck depending on configuration of cab, 2wd vs 4wd etc. By this definition many of the trucks are half tonne and others are 3/4 tonne (payload). There is no correlation between payload and towing capacity. Please correct me if Im wrong. Just placed an order for a 2010 Tundra, Crew Max. 12 weeks to get a truck, thats ridiculous. Had a heated discussion with a F150 lover over the weekend claiming Ford boast the highest towing capacity and that Toyota’s are for wanna be’s. I was a little puzzled by the claim that his truck with less horsepower, less torque and a taller gear ratio could tow more than a Tundra. Thanks for confirming my suspicions.

Only addition I would make is clarify what is meant by half tonne truck. This refers to payload and not towing capacity. Half tonne is 500 Kg and Tundra can handle anywhere from 600-800 kg with the same truck depending on configuration of cab, 2wd vs 4wd etc. By this definition many of the trucks are half tonne and others are 3/4 tonne (payload). There is no correlation between payload and towing capacity. Please correct me if Im wrong.

]]> By: Mickey http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/09/16/2009-2010-truck-maximum-tow-rating-guide-part-two/#comment-8998 Mickey Mon, 21 Sep 2009 02:08:04 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=1755#comment-8998 Jason I put your towing on Tundra talk to spread your word. Jason I put your towing on Tundra talk to spread your word.

]]> By: Jeremy the Dark Dork http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/09/16/2009-2010-truck-maximum-tow-rating-guide-part-two/#comment-8979 Jeremy the Dark Dork Sun, 20 Sep 2009 03:26:53 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=1755#comment-8979 You forgot Hair loss, urinary track infections, and testicular implosion. The first two are treatable, that third missed side effect will make you stop and think before towing too much weight. You forgot Hair loss, urinary track infections, and testicular implosion. The first two are treatable, that third missed side effect will make you stop and think before towing too much weight.

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