Comments on: LA Times Slander of Toyota Continues http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/12/09/la-times-slander-toyota-continues/ Toyota Tundra News, Reviews, Accessories, and Information Thu, 09 Sep 2010 17:57:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jeremy the Evil Scientisthttp://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/12/09/la-times-slander-toyota-continues/#comment-10936 Jeremy the Evil Scientist Mon, 21 Dec 2009 04:44:41 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=2284#comment-10936 But their recommendation for Quiche was spot on! But their recommendation for Quiche was spot on!

]]> By: Admin (Jason)http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/12/09/la-times-slander-toyota-continues/#comment-10921 Admin (Jason) Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:08:45 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=2284#comment-10921 L. Diavolo - Here here. I was amazed to find out that the reporters behind these stories have also covered politics, travel, and cooking. Seems like such "hard-hitting" investigative reporting should be left to people who know something about cars. L. Diavolo – Here here. I was amazed to find out that the reporters behind these stories have also covered politics, travel, and cooking. Seems like such “hard-hitting” investigative reporting should be left to people who know something about cars.

]]> By: L. Diavolohttp://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/12/09/la-times-slander-toyota-continues/#comment-10908 L. Diavolo Sun, 20 Dec 2009 01:59:10 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=2284#comment-10908 The LA Times is on a witch hunt for a non existent problem. Simple honest answers frustrate conspiracy lovers. Rember all the bad press about the Audi's, " Jumping into reverse"? Researchers never found any problem other than drivers stepping on the wrong pedal. How about th Suzuki " roll over" problems? Same thing. When consumer reports was put to test the problem was their test, not the car. Check out the back ground of the reporters who wrote the article. Far left wing liberals, anti nucular power, finding radioactive water under the entire state of Nevada. The LA Times is going broke, and they are making up news to try and sell more papers. After it is printed in the Times, it is then quoted on the Times TV stations as being factual, when it is all conjecture. I canceled my Times subscribtion. Such BS. The LA Times is on a witch hunt for a non existent problem. Simple honest answers frustrate conspiracy lovers. Rember all the bad press about the Audi’s, ” Jumping into reverse”? Researchers never found any problem other than drivers stepping on the wrong pedal. How about th Suzuki ” roll over” problems? Same thing. When consumer reports was put to test the problem was their test, not the car.
Check out the back ground of the reporters who wrote the article. Far left wing liberals, anti nucular power, finding radioactive water under the entire state of Nevada. The LA Times is going broke, and they are making up news to try and sell more papers. After it is printed in the Times, it is then quoted on the Times TV stations as being factual, when it is all conjecture. I canceled my Times subscribtion. Such BS.

]]> By: Jeremy the Evil Scientisthttp://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/12/09/la-times-slander-toyota-continues/#comment-10818 Jeremy the Evil Scientist Mon, 14 Dec 2009 03:15:46 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=2284#comment-10818 Dpd, CR Recommending any vehicle is like having a blind man say you are pretty. HE may be right, he may be wrong but it doesn't matter, HE'S BLIND. CR does great work with TV's, Toasters, and Washing Machines. They have ALWAYS had a bad reputation with Automobiles. As we have already outlines through out this site, They have an agenda and it skews the results of their testing. This fact alone renders CR's opinion worthless as it pertains to Automobiles. As for the writers in question at the LA Times, At least CR tries to hide there lack of objectivity.I am done arguing. You are oblivious to everyone else here laughing you to scorn and now I feel like a bully because you just can't make a cohesive point to save yourself. You have made me question one of my tenets to live by, which is:Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down and beat you with experiance.Either you lack idiot experiance or you proved that saying wrong.Please stop, your ignorance and beligerance is no longer fun or funny. Dpd, CR Recommending any vehicle is like having a blind man say you are pretty. HE may be right, he may be wrong but it doesn’t matter, HE’S BLIND. CR does great work with TV’s, Toasters, and Washing Machines. They have ALWAYS had a bad reputation with Automobiles. As we have already outlines through out this site, They have an agenda and it skews the results of their testing. This fact alone renders CR’s opinion worthless as it pertains to Automobiles. As for the writers in question at the LA Times, At least CR tries to hide there lack of objectivity.

I am done arguing. You are oblivious to everyone else here laughing you to scorn and now I feel like a bully because you just can’t make a cohesive point to save yourself. You have made me question one of my tenets to live by, which is:

Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down and beat you with experiance.

Either you lack idiot experiance or you proved that saying wrong.

Please stop, your ignorance and beligerance is no longer fun or funny.

]]> By: Mickeyhttp://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/12/09/la-times-slander-toyota-continues/#comment-10817 Mickey Mon, 14 Dec 2009 02:50:16 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=2284#comment-10817 Also Dpd I still got my copy of the 2007 C/R. You took the class at NHTSA? Wow I bet that was amazing and you still say it's NHTSA's recall when Toyota voluntarily did the recall. Also Dpd I still got my copy of the 2007 C/R. You took the class at NHTSA? Wow I bet that was amazing and you still say it’s NHTSA’s recall when Toyota voluntarily did the recall.

]]> By: Mickeyhttp://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/12/09/la-times-slander-toyota-continues/#comment-10816 Mickey Mon, 14 Dec 2009 02:47:41 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=2284#comment-10816 You have problems with facts Dpd. I said it maybe cold but facts. If that ’s inconsiderate then so be it. I’m not the one who mention this guy was holier than the rest because he was a CHP. He didn’t use his training what more you want me to say. I’m not going to sugar coat it for you or his family members. If you’re all knowing then why don’t you read up on why do Police never list any mishaps as accidents. When it comes to vehicles there’s never an accident. They call them “Crashes”. The word accident claims no negligence involved. Wrong answer there Dpd. Negligence was on the part of the dealership for putting both mats and one of them not authorized for that car. If I wanted to be a jerk I would state the CHP guy was part of that negligence but I didn’t. So go learn the difference guy because crashes have been used for several years now in all law enforcement agencies. C/R pulled the total recommendation of both 4×4 and 4×2 Tundra’s in 2007. The recall was on the propeller shaft on 4×4’s, so why did they pull it and like I stated before that the 4×2 had about 90% of the categories tested on top but didn’t keep the recommendation. Nothing but bias can be said about that. Now why the arguement? Do we really have to spell out what C/R is doing? You can read it above. Now for your mature statement which you was so boldly stating:
dpd Said in December 11th, 2009 @6:00 pm So CR must be wrong for recommending any Toyota/Lexas product. Just like the F-150 that you speak of they are both on the recommended list. As for Jason the idiot scientist, if you pull your head out of your a$$ that will not happen every time you try to breathe. I’m not taking the defense of anyone but until you are on a California freeway you don’t know what your missing. Try to have some respect. (Jason Take a breathe, you have to remind people every now and then)also talk of Flaming Ford’s not being mature. Well you can come over to Jacksonville and explain that to the couple who just lost their truck along with part of their house just less than 3 weeks ago. Now that’s mature. Youkeep stating negative comment about the family. Only the driver the CHP person was all I wrote about. Apparently again you read what you like. Try reading all of the subject first.

]]> By: Dpdhttp://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/12/09/la-times-slander-toyota-continues/#comment-10810 Dpd Sun, 13 Dec 2009 22:35:30 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=2284#comment-10810 2007 Consumer Reports automatically would recommend Toyota's due to their reputation. Well the Tundra had issues and they stated that they will no longer recommend Toyota's just of the past performance. In the beginning of the 07 tundra they where recommended. They changed that in the last quarter of that year. - If you don't care what CR says then why the argument. Why do you care? - As for the accident, it was a accident got it. So why the inconsiderate comments about the family. I totally understand how the NHTSA works. Has nothing to do with them. 2007 Consumer Reports automatically would recommend Toyota’s due to their reputation. Well the Tundra had issues and they stated that they will no longer recommend Toyota’s just of the past performance. In the beginning of the 07 tundra they where recommended. They changed that in the last quarter of that year.
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If you don’t care what CR says then why the argument. Why do you care?
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As for the accident, it was a accident got it. So why the inconsiderate comments about the family. I totally understand how the NHTSA works. Has nothing to do with them.

]]> By: Admin (Jason)http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/12/09/la-times-slander-toyota-continues/#comment-10803 Admin (Jason) Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:49:46 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=2284#comment-10803 DPD - First of all, Jeremy and I are two different people. It's just common courtesy to be sure to get our names right. As for your assertion that "we" are trumpeting Consumer Reports when it's good and criticizing it when it's wrong, you are incorrect. Even if that were the case, so what? I call them like I see them. If you're a consistent reader of the blog, you'll note that I often criticize Consumer Reports and I rarely put emphasis on their recommendations. Here's a post from 2 months ago: http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/10/28/tundra-sequoia-consumer-reports-reliability/ And a post from 2 years ago: http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/10/16/consumer-reports-says-new-tundra-is-below-average/ My attitude towards Consumer Reports has never changed. ### dpd - Are you agreeing with my assessment of the accident, or did you just ignore my comment? 6 mistakes (perhaps 7) were made in the accident with the CHP officer, none of which can be attributed to the vehicle itself. Can you dispute the facts, or are you just blowing hot air? Despite the best efforts of NHTSA, Toyota, the L.A. Times, and Consumer Reports, NO ONE has conclusively proven there's a problem with Toyota's floor mats or accelerator. This recall is VOLUNTARY, and it's likely an over-reaction. Credit Toyota for spending millions of dollars despite the fact they were never asked to do so by NHTSA. DPD – First of all, Jeremy and I are two different people. It’s just common courtesy to be sure to get our names right. As for your assertion that “we” are trumpeting Consumer Reports when it’s good and criticizing it when it’s wrong, you are incorrect. Even if that were the case, so what? I call them like I see them. If you’re a consistent reader of the blog, you’ll note that I often criticize Consumer Reports and I rarely put emphasis on their recommendations. Here’s a post from 2 months ago:
http://www.tundraheadquarters......liability/
And a post from 2 years ago:
http://www.tundraheadquarters......w-average/
My attitude towards Consumer Reports has never changed.
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dpd – Are you agreeing with my assessment of the accident, or did you just ignore my comment? 6 mistakes (perhaps 7) were made in the accident with the CHP officer, none of which can be attributed to the vehicle itself. Can you dispute the facts, or are you just blowing hot air? Despite the best efforts of NHTSA, Toyota, the L.A. Times, and Consumer Reports, NO ONE has conclusively proven there’s a problem with Toyota’s floor mats or accelerator. This recall is VOLUNTARY, and it’s likely an over-reaction. Credit Toyota for spending millions of dollars despite the fact they were never asked to do so by NHTSA.

]]> By: Mickeyhttp://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/12/09/la-times-slander-toyota-continues/#comment-10802 Mickey Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:40:40 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=2284#comment-10802 In 2007 C/R didn't state anything on the Tundra 4x2. They didn't recommend the 4x4. Now in the teests they did the 4x2 was pon top almost 90% of the time but yet still didn't get recommended. Where as the GM version of the 4x2 wasn't even tested but they got C/R's truck of the year. Since then I don't listen to C/R on anything they write. They are completely Bias on all they do. Now for the safety issue the Tundra had top honors since 2007 with the Insurance Institute. Now for NHTSA been given the Tundra 4 stars from the start in 2007. Why is it this year the Tundra gets 5 stars? Nothing has changed in the Tundra to warrant this 5 star rating. Again Bias comes to mind. So where do you want to start at with the ratings or who should we belive is right. There's your cheese to go with your whine. In 2007 C/R didn’t state anything on the Tundra 4×2. They didn’t recommend the 4×4. Now in the teests they did the 4×2 was pon top almost 90% of the time but yet still didn’t get recommended. Where as the GM version of the 4×2 wasn’t even tested but they got C/R’s truck of the year. Since then I don’t listen to C/R on anything they write. They are completely Bias on all they do. Now for the safety issue the Tundra had top honors since 2007 with the Insurance Institute. Now for NHTSA been given the Tundra 4 stars from the start in 2007. Why is it this year the Tundra gets 5 stars? Nothing has changed in the Tundra to warrant this 5 star rating. Again Bias comes to mind. So where do you want to start at with the ratings or who should we belive is right. There’s your cheese to go with your whine.

]]> By: Dpdhttp://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2009/12/09/la-times-slander-toyota-continues/#comment-10798 Dpd Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:41:28 +0000 http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/?p=2284#comment-10798 Consumer reports Best and Worse New Cars 2010 on news stands until mid February 2010 page 39 and 164 show Tundra as RECOMENDED. So what is it? - - I think you all are just looking for somthing to whine about!! Consumer reports Best and Worse New Cars 2010 on news stands until mid February 2010 page 39 and 164 show Tundra as RECOMENDED. So what is it?
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I think you all are just looking for somthing to whine about!!

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